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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat from outside

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra the global radio alliance are

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listening to fate to flag with jimmy

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on the game changer network

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good evening

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fade to black yeah man

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bespoke radio for

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the masses

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yeah how you doing

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how you doing today is monday november

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30th 2020

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335 days into the new year

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only 31 days left that's it tomorrow's

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december 1st 30 days left

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we made it we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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far and near this is fade to black for

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kjcr the game changer network and kgra

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the planets i'm your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing you have a great weekend

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extended holiday thanksgiving i know you

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we're back we've got a great week lined

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up here on fade to black another great

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bass player for the band bad wolves

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that's right right here on fade to black

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ah get ready kyle will be with us at the

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bottom of the

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hour and tomorrow night i've got a

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conspiracy for you

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that's right tomorrow night we were

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gonna have conspiracy number nine

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cancelled that's right and there is a

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going to do fader night open lines

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all night long yeah i know everybody's

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no conspiracy tomorrow night no

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conspiracy number nine there is a

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assure you of that and i'm sure

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jason is listening right now laughing

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and uh only he knows only he knows he's

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nope his health is fine uh

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all of that just no conspiracy tomorrow

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i'm just saying only jason knows but uh

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alien agendas the book was just released

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tonight kyle conkel

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a couple of things i wanted to uh let

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uh the film zappa was released a

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new documentary uh absolutely incredible

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all right and uh everybody's in it too

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the thing that i mentioned to rita

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pretty incredible moments

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what a great way to end the film and uh

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it's great so please go and watch

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uh zappa it's it's just simply called

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zappa go and check that out all right

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anything um but have you seen the

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undoing last night was the season finale

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that out check it out there's

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another uh documentary series it's still

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and if you haven't seen that go and

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and uh there you go okay uh where

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mandalorian and

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you know what tomorrow night's fader

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night we'll do all of that tomorrow okay

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um also over this is where i always talk

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about carolyn ford

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over on carolyn ford's facebook page

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she has posted a picture and you guys

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can go

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and and check it out of this new crystal

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skull she's got

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grace and i believe she

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25 pounds i think that's what she said

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27 pounds

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and it's as big maybe bigger than

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einstein but it's hollow

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quartz and it's this big you've got to

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go and check out

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absolutely incredible

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and the website of course is einstein

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the crystal skull.com go and get your

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first maybe your second maybe your

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newest crystal skull from einstein the

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crystal skull.com the promo code is

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jimmy and you will get 10 off of your

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order today

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talk to billy carson earlier today he's

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got a new book coming out

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uh he's got another book coming out

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we're gonna have billy on the show next

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week uh

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to announce uh his his latest book and

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tv and uh the links are over at

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that's the new documentary right there's

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he would have gone in this direction

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all right let's get to the

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scott atlas right before the show

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a member of the white house's

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i think uh he's going to try to hang out

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a strange wording on the resignation but

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all right now um do you remember dr

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now today it has been announced that

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there is going to be a gap

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poles are almost certain to die

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this could leave us blind to some

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important changes in the arctics

288
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that's right both the antarctic and the

289
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arctic

290
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as the climate warms at issues the

291
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longevity of the european cryostat

292
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ii and the american ice sat two

293
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missions cryo satu is already way beyond

294
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its

295
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design life it was put into space back

296
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in 2010 with an expectation that it

297
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would work for about three and a half

298
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years

299
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engineers think that they can keep it

300
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operating till around 2024

301
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but battery degradation and

302
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uh fuel leaks suggest uh not much longer

303
00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:35,720
than that

304
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icesat-2 was launched back in 2018

305
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with a design life of three years and

306
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hopefully

307
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it will last longer into the 2020s

308
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now industry around the world has

309
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started work

310
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on the spacecraft to replace these two

311
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but those aren't going to launch until

312
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2028

313
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maybe even beyond that because full

314
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funding to make this date a reality

315
00:16:06,550 --> 00:16:05,199
is not yet in place absolutely nuts

316
00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,560
let's get the show cracking happy

317
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birthday to today

318
00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:12,959
mandy patinkin today

319
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is 68. i don't think you know what that

320
00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:19,509
i don't think you know what that word

321
00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:21,920
means of course star the princess bride

322
00:16:25,269 --> 00:16:23,199
homeland

323
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and rumor has it the most difficult

324
00:16:29,670 --> 00:16:26,560
actor to work with

325
00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:29,680
in all of hollywood ben stiller today

326
00:16:34,629 --> 00:16:33,199
is 55 years old of course zoolander and

327
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meet the parents

328
00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:37,199
and uh i talked about the flight

329
00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:37,839
attendant

330
00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:39,279
last week if you haven't seen it check

331
00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:41,040
it out it's a great series uh they

332
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,160
released the first

333
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three episodes uh as the premiere

334
00:16:51,990 --> 00:16:48,639
um but i never heard of this actress

335
00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:52,000
yeah kaylie cuoco

336
00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:56,320
today is 35 and she was in the big bang

337
00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,959
theory for like 150 years but i never

338
00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:00,240
watched that show

339
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,639
so i never heard of her but she is also

340
00:17:05,029 --> 00:17:04,400
the star of the flight attendant my

341
00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:05,039
daughter uh

342
00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,400
comes in we're watching the flight

343
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:08,160
attendant i said man you got to see the

344
00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:08,880
series

345
00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,880
diana it's great check it out she goes

346
00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:12,799
oh that's kaylee i love her she's

347
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:14,559
awesome on the big bang theory i said oh

348
00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:15,600
really

349
00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:17,679
ah and that explains a lot that means

350
00:17:21,909 --> 00:17:18,720
she had

351
00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:21,919
you know 50 100 years of uh

352
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:24,160
acting behind her before the flight

353
00:17:29,110 --> 00:17:25,520
attendant she's really good

354
00:17:33,190 --> 00:17:29,120
billy idol today is 65 writer

355
00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:33,200
producer director ryan murphy today

356
00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:36,480
is 55 of course american horror story

357
00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:39,840
ratched niptuck and

358
00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:41,679
i went to high school with ryan at

359
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warren central high school

360
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:46,640
in indy happy birthday ryan 55 years old

361
00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:51,520
roger glover legend roger glover icon

362
00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:54,559
today is 75 rainbow that's all i got to

363
00:17:59,110 --> 00:17:55,919
say produced all that stuff

364
00:18:02,230 --> 00:17:59,120
really good stacy q today

365
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:05,430
the stacey q

366
00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:08,799
today is 62.

367
00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:12,160
two of hearts i need you

368
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:15,360
two of hearts stacy q our dead guy's

369
00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:16,480
birthday today is

370
00:18:24,789 --> 00:18:21,360
ruby star that's right 1949 to 1995

371
00:18:27,669 --> 00:18:24,799
died at the age of 45. ruby

372
00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:27,679
was a rock goddess singer and recording

373
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:28,080
artist

374
00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:30,160
who attained stardom for her work with

375
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:32,320
black oak arkansas you remember

376
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,960
ruby with that hair right incredible

377
00:18:38,070 --> 00:18:35,919
voice

378
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:38,080
and uh we all know she was featured on

379
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:40,000
their 1973 top

380
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:43,520
top 10 single jim dandy with uh black

381
00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:45,919
oak arkansas in 1974 she began touring

382
00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:46,960
on her own

383
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:50,559
uh again as ruby star and the grey ghost

384
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:52,880
well after being diagnosed with lung

385
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:55,200
cancer and a brain tumor

386
00:19:03,110 --> 00:18:58,799
star died january 14 1995 in toledo

387
00:19:05,510 --> 00:19:03,120
ohio with her family at the age of 45.

388
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:05,520
happy birthday ruby on this day in

389
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:08,160
history otd 1954

390
00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:11,520
the first otd right

391
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:15,919
the first meteorite strike on a human

392
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:19,360
happens on this day in 1954

393
00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:22,160
in alabama the meteorite crashed through

394
00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:24,880
the roof of elizabeth hodges house

395
00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:28,160
into her living room bounces off a radio

396
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:31,120
and then strikes her on the hip the the

397
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:32,880
pictures are incredible

398
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:36,320
and uh the meteorite weighed eight

399
00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:40,480
and a half pounds fader fact

400
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:49,270
that's right trip on that at your fader

401
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:49,840
fact

402
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:53,200
you see sharks have existed for more

403
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:56,240
than 450 million years

404
00:20:03,110 --> 00:19:59,520
trees trees have

405
00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:03,120
only existed on this planet

406
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:06,720
for 350 million years there were no

407
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:07,840
trees

408
00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:12,880
on planet earth 351 million years ago

409
00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:16,159
that's a trip and that is your favorite

410
00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:17,440
fact thank you kaz that's a great

411
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:20,159
picture of ruby star there she is

412
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:23,840
she could sing tonight very special

413
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:24,400
guest

414
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:27,039
uh kyle coghill is here bass player from

415
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,600
bad

416
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:29,840
wolves and we are going to talk about a

417
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:30,640
little bit of

418
00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,720
everything tonight all my favorite stuff

419
00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,640
music ufos conspiracy

420
00:20:38,149 --> 00:20:36,559
time travel bigfoot we're gonna get it

421
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,159
all in tonight with kyle

422
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:40,400
tomorrow night is fader night because

423
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:43,520
the conspiracy happened with

424
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:47,039
jason yeah jason quit is now his own

425
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:50,240
conspiracy so tomorrow night fader night

426
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:52,240
wednesday night richard dolan thursday

427
00:20:57,029 --> 00:20:54,880
night linda moulton howe

428
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:57,039
all right let me hit this river moon

429
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:58,480
coffee

430
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:02,000
yeah is that is that is that kaylee from

431
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:03,280
big bang theory

432
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:04,559
is that what she looked like in the

433
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,710
never seen it i heard it i i i heard

434
00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:11,919
it's good

435
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,000
maybe maybe i'll go back but now the

436
00:21:19,470 --> 00:21:16,320
show was on for like what

437
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,480
its first what first episode was in like

438
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:21,360
1958

439
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:24,159
that's a lot of that's a lot of seasons

440
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:24,880
man

441
00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:27,120
it's a lot of binging on the big bang

442
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:28,720
theory but maybe i'll check it out they

443
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,400
probably started off

444
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:32,720
they weren't even widescreen when that

445
00:21:43,350 --> 00:21:39,909
man all right i

446
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:43,360
kid i kid

447
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:46,799
but rivermooncoffee.com

448
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:50,799
there there is one thing

449
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:54,240
that protects me from going full

450
00:22:03,669 --> 00:21:59,600
on nuts crazy that's right

451
00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:08,310
yep never go all in

452
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:11,270
tropic thunder reference number one i

453
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:12,159
just don't do it

454
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:15,919
i don't do it ever well hold on

455
00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:18,960
it's not entirely true i went all in

456
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:20,799
with billy meyer

457
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:23,600
but that was 35 years ago and i

458
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,559
definitely

459
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,549
i know i've never forgotten it i remind

460
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:32,559
you about it all the time

461
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:36,240
but i'm only human shortly after that i

462
00:22:43,110 --> 00:22:39,039
went all in with bob lazar

463
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:43,120
bob and that period of my life

464
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:46,720
lasted 30 years 30 years of

465
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:49,919
going all in with bob lazar in the end

466
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,960
i was pretty bummed but i didn't lose my

467
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:55,360
mind over it

468
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:58,960
i sorta went all in with bob

469
00:23:02,710 --> 00:23:01,120
but there was enough red flags to keep

470
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:02,720
my mental health

471
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:06,480
in the safe zone

472
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:09,919
now right now right now

473
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:13,200
i know that there are those out there

474
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,600
waiting for me to comment on the current

475
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:17,200
state of conspiracy

476
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,200
theory that is gripping our nation right

477
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:25,190
not gonna do it i'm staying in the safe

478
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:32,630
my sanity needs protection

479
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:37,919
so here's the deal i am going to wait

480
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:42,240
until january 21st 2021

481
00:23:48,070 --> 00:23:45,360
to post my thoughts or to speak some

482
00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:48,080
verbage live on the air

483
00:23:55,430 --> 00:23:51,679
and the reason for this is simple

484
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:55,440
the nation needs to see some evidence of

485
00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:59,360
something anything

486
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:02,799
we are all watching the clock tick down

487
00:24:09,269 --> 00:24:06,640
time is short i

488
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:09,279
like most of you have heard all the

489
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:10,480
claims

490
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,279
the conspiracy theories but this time

491
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:15,120
around things are different

492
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,080
the claims are everywhere out there in

493
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:20,000
the media they're in social media

494
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:21,440
everybody's talking about it there's

495
00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:22,480
videos it's

496
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:25,760
everywhere it's all out in front

497
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:28,799
in the public and you would

498
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:32,320
think that there would be a huge

499
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,240
official government response to them

500
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:39,360
right some type of investigation

501
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:43,679
something anything and there has been

502
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:48,320
nothing so the whole thing

503
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:52,320
is actually very simple to observe

504
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,000
january 21st 2021 is the date where

505
00:24:59,669 --> 00:24:59,120
all of us every single person in the

506
00:25:02,549 --> 00:24:59,679
country

507
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,559
and on the planet will come to a

508
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:04,799
conclusion

509
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:09,600
anything after that is a moot point

510
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:13,279
now let's table the election fraud stuff

511
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:14,880
for now

512
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,320
okay it's table that actually let's

513
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:19,760
table it for 50 days

514
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:23,840
to be more precise and let's talk about

515
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:31,350
you see here is a perfect example

516
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:35,600
of when not to go all in

517
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:37,520
when the story first broke i was like

518
00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:38,880
okay cool all right

519
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,279
it's there there it is looking at it

520
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:43,120
it's real

521
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:45,360
now let's try and figure out what we

522
00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:49,520
have up in the desert in utah

523
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:57,430
well there were thousands

524
00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:00,720
maybe more who immediately

525
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:04,159
went all in it's alien it's a tt it said

526
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:05,360
that

527
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:11,679
to go into

528
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:15,200
the utah monolith is just way

529
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:18,480
way too easy to figure out

530
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,799
and it just took a matter of days for

531
00:26:27,669 --> 00:26:22,559
the details to emerge

532
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:27,679
first off it didn't just appear

533
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:30,799
up here it didn't just appear it was

534
00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:31,360
there

535
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:34,240
in the desert for almost five years it

536
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:34,880
first

537
00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:38,039
showed up in google earth around 2015

538
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:40,000
2016.

539
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:43,120
second the hbo series

540
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:46,880
west world was filming in and around the

541
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:49,039
area at that time

542
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:52,240
right is this case closed

543
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:55,600
well yeah sorta sure is

544
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,880
but it was when different groups started

545
00:27:01,590 --> 00:27:00,559
to show up at the scene over the last

546
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:01,600
couple of days

547
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:05,039
revealing everything that was suspected

548
00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:07,760
right that it was man-made saw the

549
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:08,799
rivets up close

550
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:11,840
saw the videos probably made of sheet

551
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:12,240
metal

552
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:14,400
you know stainless steel been up there

553
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:16,480
for five years it looked brand new

554
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,279
and i gotta say it must have been an

555
00:27:22,870 --> 00:27:21,200
awesome and fun adventure for those who

556
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,880
made the trek

557
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,000
man and it's totally cool to look at

558
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:29,200
then yesterday the breaking news that it

559
00:27:32,870 --> 00:27:30,399
had

560
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:32,880
vanished overnight remember first it

561
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,679
appeared

562
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,520
overnight now it's vanished overnight

563
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:37,679
gone poof

564
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,360
and my guess is one of two things

565
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,440
happened

566
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,440
right the hollywood production company

567
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:45,600
that put it there and forgot about it

568
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:49,279
uh went and packed it up that's one

569
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:52,240
or two someone just took it for a

570
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:53,520
souvenir

571
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:57,200
right that's it

572
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:00,640
but it most certainly was an alien

573
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:02,960
sending a signal to jupiter's moon

574
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:05,360
europa

575
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,720
then today another monolith has shown up

576
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:09,679
in romania

577
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,960
more aliens at work right the romanian

578
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:15,120
monolith isn't quite as cool looking as

579
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,159
utah's it's got some amateur polishing

580
00:28:20,470 --> 00:28:19,919
on its surface but hey you gotta love

581
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,480
the effort

582
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:23,200
right who knows maybe we'll have

583
00:28:26,549 --> 00:28:25,279
monoliths popping up all over the world

584
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:26,559
from different artists

585
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:29,120
who want to make a statement right and i

586
00:28:33,909 --> 00:28:30,399
applaud it i do

587
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:33,919
go for it and maybe

588
00:28:41,029 --> 00:28:38,559
just maybe q will resurface

589
00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:41,039
and tie all the monoliths to election

590
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:44,000
fraud in dominion

591
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:47,279
rumor has it that the last one will

592
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,760
appear in washington dc on january 20th

593
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:50,880
2021

594
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,600
just in time for my first public

595
00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:54,480
comments about

596
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:58,480
our future the next day on the 21st

597
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,159
hopefully this time westworld won't be

598
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,200
filming in front of the lincoln memorial

599
00:29:09,029 --> 00:29:07,919
you see this is how i protect my sanity

600
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,039
folks

601
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,080
i don't go all in

602
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,919
yet it's just like the movie tropic

603
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:16,480
thunder reference number two

604
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:20,559
right and you you may not have gone all

605
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,279
in

606
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:24,559
but you know someone who has maybe it's

607
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:26,559
your spouse maybe it's your best friend

608
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,720
and you know that there is nothing you

609
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:30,000
can say

610
00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,320
you don't bring anything up right or

611
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,559
you're in for a two-hour crazy talk

612
00:29:40,710 --> 00:29:36,159
session and you don't want to go there

613
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:40,720
you avoid all talk about conspiracy

614
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,200
because you don't want to look into

615
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:45,679
those crazy eyes

616
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,960
and you know what i'm talking about

617
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,039
you don't want to be responsible for

618
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:53,120
pushing someone over the edge

619
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:56,559
or in this case the cliff just let

620
00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:57,760
things play out

621
00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,279
they always do and on january 21st

622
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,760
we'll know the end game no matter what

623
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:04,960
it is

624
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:07,840
right we'll have the answers and

625
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,480
hopefully

626
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,799
your friend with the crazy eyes will

627
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,960
start to put a foot into reality and we

628
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,039
can start to move on to our next

629
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:18,000
great conspiracy theory and i'm going to

630
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:19,600
start it right now

631
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:22,960
with the number 18 and the letter

632
00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,000
r quote me

633
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:28,720
i'm yours jimmy church this is fade to

634
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,000
black tonight

635
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:32,720
kyle conkel is here bass player for bad

636
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:33,600
wolves

637
00:30:35,909 --> 00:30:34,880
stay right there it's going to be a

638
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:35,919
great show going to be a great

639
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:36,799
conversation

640
00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:38,480
tomorrow night is fader night fader

641
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,760
tonight is not thursday

642
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:42,960
tomorrow's tuesday that's going to be

643
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:44,480
fader night wednesday night

644
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:47,440
richard dolan thursday night linda

645
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:48,320
moulton howe

646
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this is fade to black on the game

647
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changer network and kgra

648
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the planet i'm yours jimmy church follow

649
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tonight's guest

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653
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654
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your father's radio show on the game

750
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00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,800
and kgra the planet

752
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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

753
00:35:58,740 --> 00:35:44,320
you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

754
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,750
jimmy church radio

755
00:36:02,069 --> 00:36:00,480
[Music]

756
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,079
all right welcome back fade to block i'm

757
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,240
your host jimmy church

758
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:06,320
you can follow me on twitter at j church

759
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:09,119
radio you can follow kyle at ksconkyo

760
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,400
right there i've got it up in the

761
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,400
twitter feed for everybody go follow

762
00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:13,760
kyle

763
00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:16,880
tonight he joins us but i want to remind

764
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:18,180
everybody tomorrow night

765
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,280
[Music]

766
00:36:22,710 --> 00:36:22,079
fader night vader night is not thursday

767
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:22,720
it is

768
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:26,400
tomorrow night okay very simple jason

769
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:27,440
quit cancelled

770
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,240
it's a conspiracy wednesday night

771
00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:32,000
richard dolan thursday night

772
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:33,839
linda moulton howe great week here on

773
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,040
the show tonight it's kyle conkel

774
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:40,560
and this is the deal um i have been a

775
00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:41,040
bad

776
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:43,599
wolves fan from the beginning and it's

777
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:45,440
it's very interesting how

778
00:36:49,430 --> 00:36:48,560
how small the world is okay but he joins

779
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,440
us tonight

780
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,280
and of course he is the bass player for

781
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:54,960
bad wolves he's the host of the just uh

782
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,880
stay that you know

783
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:01,200
shut the f up uh you know this is a

784
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,920
family show but that's his uh podcast

785
00:37:07,829 --> 00:37:06,000
uh bad wolves gain notoriety of course

786
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:07,839
back in 2018 for their version of the

787
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:09,119
cranberry zombie

788
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:10,960
reaching platinum and multi-platinum

789
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:12,960
status all over the world kyle a los

790
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,079
angeles native

791
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,000
has been in the hollywood music scene

792
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:18,240
since 2002 we have a bunch of mutual

793
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:20,000
friends that he doesn't even know about

794
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,000
yet i'm about to drop that on him and

795
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:23,920
has played for many bands including in

796
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:24,880
this moment

797
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:27,359
world under blood scar uh scar the

798
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:28,160
martyr and

799
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,680
vimic i would like to welcome the first

800
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:31,440
time to fade to black uh

801
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,320
uh kyle conkel kyle how you doing man

802
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:35,520
great man how are you doing

803
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,839
man listen to those pipes you should

804
00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:39,680
have a podcast

805
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,920
is let's actually start here kyle uh

806
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:45,599
you're a first time guest which means

807
00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,839
you get the first time guest disclaimer

808
00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:49,440
and i know you're excited about that

809
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,200
but let's get that out of the way which

810
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:53,440
is kyle it's just you and i sitting on

811
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:55,119
my couch having a conversation as

812
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:55,839
friends and

813
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:57,599
where that conversation starts it starts

814
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,040
where it ends it ends

815
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,960
but we're going to end his friends all

816
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:02,480
right pressure

817
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:05,920
yeah the pressure pressure's off now um

818
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,200
uh i've got so many uh

819
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:11,119
things that that i want to discuss with

820
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:12,320
you tonight but

821
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:14,160
i want to get a couple of things out of

822
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:15,359
the way first

823
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:19,760
uh the drummer kenny pierce

824
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:21,280
oh yeah kenny pierce yeah we worked

825
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:23,599
together at mates yeah ah

826
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:26,560
so okay so that's the connection okay

827
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:27,280
i've known

828
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,480
for about 35 years uh he used to be in a

829
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:36,240
band called tazz

830
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:38,240
all right before your time you don't you

831
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:39,359
know but back

832
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,960
then uh kenny and i know you know what

833
00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,400
he looks like now

834
00:38:50,069 --> 00:38:47,119
back then he was the cutest drummer on

835
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,230
his nickname his nickname at mates was

836
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:54,720
pesci yeah

837
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:57,440
see i see that i see that back then he

838
00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,040
had the flowing locks

839
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:02,640
and the spandex and and and war aqua net

840
00:39:06,069 --> 00:39:04,400
like nobody man he

841
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,079
he had he had it down but this is the

842
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:07,680
thing about kenny

843
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,560
um i this is my memory of kenny and him

844
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:12,079
and i have talked about this so many

845
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:13,599
times over the years but

846
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:17,280
um back in like 87 we shared a rehearsal

847
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,599
studio together in a downtown los

848
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:21,119
angeles somewhere

849
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:24,480
and uh we had the same manager and

850
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:28,560
kenny loved van halen right

851
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:32,240
and so he could play any van halen to

852
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,400
and i was a you know i was an eddie guy

853
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:36,800
and i you know played the and him and i

854
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:38,320
would sit and jam

855
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:41,520
van halen for hours just the two of us

856
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,200
right no bass player no no singer

857
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:47,839
but him and i would uh just did i just i

858
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:48,800
love that guy to death

859
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:51,200
and a huge talent have you ever played

860
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,160
with him

861
00:39:55,349 --> 00:39:54,000
no i've never had the chance to jam with

862
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,359
him um

863
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:58,160
when i was when we worked together gosh

864
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,200
i can't even remember

865
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,240
probably like six seven years ago

866
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,200
um i was doing multiple projects and i

867
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:06,880
just didn't have the time

868
00:40:12,309 --> 00:40:10,079
and uh have you ever heard him play

869
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:12,319
i know i've never heard him play wow wow

870
00:40:16,309 --> 00:40:13,680
that's crazy

871
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:16,319
he is he's a he is he's one of the best

872
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,960
drummers

873
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,680
that i know and and you're a great bass

874
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,839
player i can't believe that you two guys

875
00:40:25,030 --> 00:40:23,839
are next to each other never had a

876
00:40:27,610 --> 00:40:25,040
chance to jam

877
00:40:30,550 --> 00:40:27,620
i'm moderately like accurate that's it

878
00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:30,560
[Laughter]

879
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,240
oh next thing um i i wanted to

880
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:37,680
run by you has anybody

881
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:41,200
told you that uh that you're guilfoyle

882
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:44,079
from silicon valley i've never seen that

883
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,480
show

884
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:46,480
and i think i've heard a reference to

885
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:47,599
that

886
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,280
but dude you are guilfoyle

887
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,960
i've never seen that show so i have no

888
00:40:55,510 --> 00:40:54,720
idea what you mean i i swear you're

889
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,520
gonna watch it

890
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,680
just go and watch it and you are gonna

891
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,359
be so self-conscious now

892
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,920
i'm gonna mess up your life for like the

893
00:41:05,510 --> 00:41:03,680
next six months you're gonna be

894
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:05,520
uh they're looking at me they think i'm

895
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:06,330
guilfoyle

896
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,079
[Laughter]

897
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,079
so but anyway okay so i got that stuff

898
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:12,079
out of the way um

899
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,280
this is this is the deal um and then

900
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,960
we'll we'll get off to other things but

901
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,440
the one thing that's on everybody's mind

902
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:21,839
is this pandemic and what we're going

903
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:22,640
through

904
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,920
um you're you're in not only in a great

905
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:26,640
band but

906
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:29,920
a very popular band and you're not

907
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,720
touring

908
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,880
right how did how are you getting how'd

909
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,160
you get through this year

910
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:35,760
yeah i want everybody to know i'm

911
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,000
looking at kyle's studio

912
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:40,720
um how many basses are racked up behind

913
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,359
you

914
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,359
there are nine basses and two guitars

915
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:45,440
and one electric and one acoustic guitar

916
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:48,240
man that is just uh yeah that's just

917
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:48,960
beautiful

918
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,599
it how are you guys dealing with it and

919
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,520
when do you expect to to head back out

920
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,119
on tour

921
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:59,359
uh as for touring i'm not really sure

922
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:01,520
yet you know some people have said

923
00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:04,240
summer 2021 some people have said closer

924
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:04,720
to

925
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,839
fall winter 2021 some people are saying

926
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:09,680
2022 so i really don't have

927
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,480
uh like a real answer to that question

928
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,760
but uh you know we're working on the

929
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,079
third bad wolves record right now

930
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,839
originally we only had two months to

931
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,599
work on the record

932
00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:21,599
and then you know stuff started

933
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:23,920
canceling so we had more and more time

934
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,160
so i think we were putting more into

935
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:27,680
this album

936
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:30,160
than maybe even the first one but i know

937
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,720
because

938
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,560
john wrote a lot of the stuff on the

939
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,720
first record and he spent years kind of

940
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:36,079
putting that together

941
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:37,599
and i definitely know that we put more

942
00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,520
time in uh

943
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:41,920
than we did on the second record so

944
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:43,599
we've just been kind of working on that

945
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,599
um and we also have a band patreon

946
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:50,000
so like you know we have exclusive songs

947
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:51,200
exclusive merch

948
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,000
uh you know me chris kane my guitar

949
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,480
player dot coil my guitar player

950
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:59,119
and john burkland our drummer we go on

951
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,920
there

952
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,400
and you know we do like live q and a's

953
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,920
like today was my day

954
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:05,920
so you know i go on there for about an

955
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:07,839
hour i answer questions i do

956
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:11,200
jams you know i try to make it as

957
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:14,319
entertaining as possible and uh you know

958
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,520
our singer tommy

959
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:17,359
uh he's been working on a lot of covers

960
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:19,680
so he like posts those every friday

961
00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:21,760
and i think we're up to like i think

962
00:43:24,550 --> 00:43:22,800
like 22

963
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:24,560
exclusive songs on the band patreon

964
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,640
account well we're going to talk about

965
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:27,680
tommy in a second

966
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:30,800
uh extreme talent the whole band is

967
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,920
is right there too um and

968
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,520
and i do want to talk about all of that

969
00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:37,680
but you guys

970
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:41,040
um enjoyed something that most

971
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:44,079
musicians uh dream about and that you

972
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:44,560
guys

973
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:47,440
got shot out of a cannon right and the

974
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:47,839
the

975
00:43:55,349 --> 00:43:52,400
it did

976
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:55,359
you've got zoltan you know bathroom uh

977
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:57,440
working with you guys you head out

978
00:44:00,950 --> 00:44:00,240
uh with five finger death punch and

979
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,960
you've got

980
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:03,040
you're you're you're everything's

981
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,000
charting

982
00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:06,240
you're shooting on all cylinders that

983
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:08,480
must have felt pretty good

984
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:11,920
it was really weird because when we

985
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,200
when we first started you know john

986
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,760
who's he was the founder of the band uh

987
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,760
he was just like you know

988
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:21,359
i hope you guys are ready for you know a

989
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:23,040
few years in a shitty

990
00:44:28,230 --> 00:44:26,319
tour van and and then uh

991
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:28,240
you know the the label and management

992
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:29,680
were just kind of asking us

993
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:32,800
like hey like we really need like a

994
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,280
strong

995
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:36,240
single to to come out with and then

996
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,440
tommy had uh

997
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,280
had zombie and they're like well what

998
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:40,880
about this

999
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:44,480
so they liked it enough and then our

1000
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,160
uh one of our representatives from the

1001
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:48,160
uk dan waite

1002
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:50,000
used to manage the cranberries back in

1003
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:51,760
the mid 90s

1004
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:56,400
and so he sent her a dolores or riordan

1005
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,400
our version of zombie and she loved it

1006
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:03,119
uh she wanted to sing on it and you know

1007
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,079
long story short

1008
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:06,960
she flew to london to do her her

1009
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,960
contribute her vocals to that song

1010
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,480
but she never made it to the studio she

1011
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:12,400
had passed away the night before

1012
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:15,440
um and we were trying to navigate how to

1013
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:16,880
release that

1014
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,240
without you know

1015
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:22,319
without being disrespectful because we

1016
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,440
still loved the song

1017
00:45:27,829 --> 00:45:25,760
right you know right and we had her

1018
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,839
blessing to do it to begin with

1019
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:30,960
um so when we were releasing it

1020
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,359
we just decided that you know all the

1021
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:34,800
proceeds

1022
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:37,760
that we would have collected on that

1023
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,400
song

1024
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,680
were just going to donate to her

1025
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:41,599
children so

1026
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,359
we we did that the song

1027
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,680
did more than i think any of us ever

1028
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:49,680
could have even imagined

1029
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:53,040
and uh it was really weird like having

1030
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:54,800
my friends call me and you know i grew

1031
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,760
up in la

1032
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,119
you know having my buddy josh newell

1033
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:59,280
who's a producer in la he calls me he's

1034
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,000
like dude

1035
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:02,880
zombies on k rock right now and i'm just

1036
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,200
like

1037
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:05,920
whoa what so i you know i'm driving and

1038
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:06,319
i

1039
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,160
dream to be on k rock you know and uh

1040
00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:16,960
and you know we went from a you know a

1041
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:18,319
15 passenger van

1042
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:21,200
to a not so great tour bus to another

1043
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:22,880
not so great tour bus to a really good

1044
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:23,680
tour bus

1045
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:25,440
um and you know we've all been very

1046
00:46:28,550 --> 00:46:26,720
fortunate and

1047
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,560
you know i feel super lucky to be a part

1048
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:30,960
of something that that was kind of like

1049
00:46:35,030 --> 00:46:33,760
almost a cultural phenomenon for for a

1050
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:35,040
time there in

1051
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:38,240
in 2018 and uh yeah

1052
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:41,280
i mean i'm still kind of speechless you

1053
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:42,640
know i'm look i look around my

1054
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:45,440
my studio and we've got our plaques that

1055
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,960
i hang on the walls and stuff like that

1056
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:49,200
and i was just like i've never even

1057
00:46:52,470 --> 00:46:51,520
thought being in a you know rock slash

1058
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:52,480
metal band

1059
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,640
that i would be i would have wanted you

1060
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:56,160
know a platinum plaque you know what i

1061
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:57,680
mean

1062
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:01,680
yeah and uh take me through the process

1063
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:04,800
of uh the band got uh

1064
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:07,040
put together this is a new project it's

1065
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:08,000
2017

1066
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:11,599
2018 and you're you're here

1067
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,839
by the way uh i want the audience to

1068
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:14,800
know that

1069
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,079
uh kyle is like a half a mile from where

1070
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:20,880
i am right now right we're we're

1071
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:21,599
literally

1072
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:25,200
neighbors and uh but how do you

1073
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:28,960
how do you find uh the right guys

1074
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:32,720
in in in rock in los angeles

1075
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:35,440
to uh to put together a band that's

1076
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:36,800
nearly perfect like that

1077
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,640
out of the gate it's got to be tough

1078
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:39,920
these days

1079
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:43,040
well i know so john had quit devil

1080
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:43,760
driver

1081
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,359
in 2014 i want to say 2012 i don't

1082
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,440
remember exactly the year that he quit

1083
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,599
um but he had just been writing

1084
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,880
different kinds of music

1085
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:54,960
and from the stories that he told me he

1086
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:57,359
was just like scrolling on instagram

1087
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,680
and he knew chris because chris had been

1088
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,960
in barrier dead

1089
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:02,640
and barrier dead and devil driver had

1090
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,000
toured a bunch

1091
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:06,079
and uh he saw chris playing a bunch of

1092
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,760
shreddy stuff and he goes oh man i

1093
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,960
wonder if this guy would want to be in a

1094
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,920
band with me

1095
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,160
so he hit up chris chris agreed to be in

1096
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,680
the band so it was like john and chris

1097
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,359
from the beginning

1098
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:17,520
and uh you know we they tried out a

1099
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:18,800
whole bunch of

1100
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:22,079
different uh singers like i know um

1101
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,680
mike terry from barrier dead and volumes

1102
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,359
had done some stuff a couple other guys

1103
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:28,880
had done some stuff

1104
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:31,760
and then uh john had sent some songs to

1105
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,040
our singer tommy

1106
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:36,079
and it just he brought like a new life

1107
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:37,839
to those songs you know

1108
00:48:42,150 --> 00:48:41,119
and then uh and we they needed a second

1109
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:42,160
guitar player

1110
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,680
and um you know doc

1111
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:47,119
and john had known each other for a

1112
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,040
while and you know doc wasn't he was

1113
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,720
only doing vegas nerve at that time he

1114
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,559
had already quit god forbid

1115
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,480
and uh he's just like hey you want to be

1116
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,559
my band and they actually bugged me

1117
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,720
for like a year and i think they tried

1118
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:00,079
out like two or three people

1119
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:02,400
before i joined the band but i was doing

1120
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:04,079
my other band vimic

1121
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:06,160
with a member like uh former members of

1122
00:49:10,630 --> 00:49:07,520
strap young lad and

1123
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:10,640
and slipknot and uh

1124
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:14,480
one day it was like march of 2017

1125
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:17,040
i just kind of called doc on a whim you

1126
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:17,599
know i

1127
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:19,280
there was a lot of uncertainty happening

1128
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:20,960
in my band at that time not a whole lot

1129
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:22,160
going on

1130
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:24,960
and uh i just i was like hey man do you

1131
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:25,520
know

1132
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:28,640
who are looking for bass players and

1133
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,119
he's like

1134
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,280
hold on a second hold on hold on a

1135
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:32,960
minute hold on a minute

1136
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:36,240
every man needs a bass player right

1137
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,440
you're never unemployed right

1138
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,520
that's just the way it is in the music

1139
00:49:45,109 --> 00:49:43,280
biz man

1140
00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,119
i mean you know i've been very fortunate

1141
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:47,680
over the last eight years

1142
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:50,079
uh i've had overlapping gigs so it's

1143
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:52,000
like i haven't i haven't

1144
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:55,280
left a band without having something

1145
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:56,960
else lined up

1146
00:50:00,790 --> 00:49:59,599
um but yeah so i just asked i was like

1147
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,800
hey do you know anybody looking for a

1148
00:50:03,430 --> 00:50:02,160
bass player and you know he puts the

1149
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:03,440
phone down i hear some commotion he's

1150
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,000
like

1151
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:06,000
do you want to be a music video and it's

1152
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:08,160
like the gig that i had told them like

1153
00:50:12,069 --> 00:50:09,839
you know i don't know if i if i can do

1154
00:50:14,230 --> 00:50:12,079
this i might be too busy

1155
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:14,240
i just still happen to be there waiting

1156
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:15,520
for me uh because

1157
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,640
john and doc and tommy i didn't know

1158
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,480
chris before before we shot the music

1159
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:21,839
video for learn to live

1160
00:50:26,069 --> 00:50:25,440
um they all knew that i was that i could

1161
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:26,079
play

1162
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:27,839
the material and i would fit in with

1163
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,000
them and you know have

1164
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:33,040
good camaraderie with everybody and uh

1165
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:34,000
so when i said

1166
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,960
when he's like do you want to be in a

1167
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:36,319
music video i was like all right this is

1168
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,119
this is for

1169
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,880
at the time the band was called eye of

1170
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:40,240
tongues

1171
00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:43,440
um so i was like yeah i'll come be in

1172
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:45,040
the i'll come be in the music video and

1173
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:46,480
that was the learn to live

1174
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,160
uh music video shoot that we shot

1175
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:50,160
ourselves in uh

1176
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:52,160
i think it was like march february or

1177
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,240
march of 2017.

1178
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:56,400
and then later that year the band signed

1179
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:57,359
to 11

1180
00:51:02,069 --> 00:50:59,920
7 which is now better noise music and

1181
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:02,079
then we released zombie

1182
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:06,160
in january or february

1183
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:09,760
yeah january of 2018. 2018 and

1184
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:12,960
uh had you

1185
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:16,079
had you heard a lot of of material from

1186
00:51:20,309 --> 00:51:16,640
tommy

1187
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:20,319
uh beforehand so i actually played

1188
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,920
bass on so i tried out for one of his

1189
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:26,000
back in 2006 i tried out for the band

1190
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:27,599
that he was in with dino kazara's

1191
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:30,640
divine heresy but i wasn't old enough to

1192
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,040
do

1193
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,640
bar shows at the time they just didn't

1194
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:34,000
want to have somebody who was under the

1195
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:36,000
age of 21.

1196
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:39,200
and so i was like all right cool and uh

1197
00:51:41,349 --> 00:51:40,720
tommy's always kind of hit me up for

1198
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:41,359
gigs

1199
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,319
you know he hit me up to do stuff uh and

1200
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:45,920
i ended up playing i think on like half

1201
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:46,880
the record

1202
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:50,720
i think it's like me doc and bill hudson

1203
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,599
who played bass on the first westfield

1204
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,160
massacre record

1205
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:58,559
and uh he had asked me to join westfield

1206
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,520
at the time

1207
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:01,839
but i was too busy doing stuff with

1208
00:52:04,950 --> 00:52:03,040
vimic

1209
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,960
and uh and then yeah you know a few

1210
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:06,079
years later

1211
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,480
uh i'm just right and we were able to

1212
00:52:13,589 --> 00:52:12,319
actually do a project with you know now

1213
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:13,599
bad bowls what's it

1214
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,240
what's it like um i think all of us are

1215
00:52:19,510 --> 00:52:18,640
a little bit jealous when a band has got

1216
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:19,520
a singer that

1217
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:22,640
can do just about anything and and

1218
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:24,960
and tommy's got that right he's he's

1219
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,680
he's got

1220
00:52:29,670 --> 00:52:28,720
uh so many different styles uh yeah in

1221
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:29,680
one song

1222
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:32,000
right yeah what's it what's it like to

1223
00:52:35,750 --> 00:52:33,119
be able to

1224
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:35,760
to write knowing that uh you've got a

1225
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,640
singer that

1226
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:39,359
can handle everything well it gives us a

1227
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,480
little bit more

1228
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,480
creative freedom because we don't really

1229
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:44,640
have to stick to one genre

1230
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,240
like a lot of people that know us may

1231
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:48,240
know us for our radio songs

1232
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:50,079
and they might not listen to some of our

1233
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:51,680
other material

1234
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:54,400
but if you listen to you know i guess

1235
00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:55,520
would be considered the b

1236
00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:59,119
sides of disobey or nation um

1237
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:02,400
we're a heavy metal band and having

1238
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:03,119
someone

1239
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:06,559
who can not just do radio

1240
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:09,440
rock style songs but also be diverse

1241
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:10,319
enough

1242
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:12,960
to when we're really doing heavy metal

1243
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,359
um

1244
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:15,119
i think is super important because it's

1245
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:16,480
like you know

1246
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:19,920
we we're not trying to be one type of

1247
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,800
thing

1248
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,079
you know because there are a lot of

1249
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:23,760
metal bands they're just like we're just

1250
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:24,640
a metal band

1251
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:27,119
we're not gonna do these soft ass songs

1252
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:28,480
but like

1253
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:30,000
we kind of do everything there's like

1254
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:31,839
some prague influence stuff

1255
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:34,000
there's radio stuff and it's just like

1256
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:35,839
we're not putting ourselves

1257
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:38,720
in you know in a certain corner because

1258
00:53:42,069 --> 00:53:39,599
we all like

1259
00:53:43,349 --> 00:53:42,079
tons of different music like i love me

1260
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:43,359
and john

1261
00:53:49,670 --> 00:53:46,960
love 80s pop music like new wave

1262
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:49,680
or you know like huey lewis in the news

1263
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:51,200
michael jackson

1264
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:54,079
you know we're we're more than just you

1265
00:53:57,750 --> 00:53:54,640
know

1266
00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:57,760
metal guys and i think

1267
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,800
coming from so much different like

1268
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,400
coming from different bands

1269
00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:05,200
and but also coming from a whole list of

1270
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:07,119
different influences

1271
00:54:12,069 --> 00:54:09,599
past and present i think putting

1272
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:12,079
ourselves into one section of a genre

1273
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:16,640
would do the band itself a disservice

1274
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:19,839
what do you uh what do you make of

1275
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:23,200
uh the metal world today and and rock

1276
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:26,559
and roll in general you know is it

1277
00:54:32,710 --> 00:54:30,079
is is it here is it strong is it solid

1278
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:32,720
is it an illusion that it's not there

1279
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,119
you know

1280
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,040
because there are so many other uh

1281
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:36,880
things that dominate

1282
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:40,880
the airwaves you know what's going on

1283
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:43,839
i mean from the last two years that we

1284
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:45,839
have been touring pretty much

1285
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:49,040
consistently you know we've played with

1286
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:50,240
a bunch of different bands yeah we've

1287
00:54:52,230 --> 00:54:51,520
played a lot with five finger death

1288
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:52,240
punch

1289
00:54:55,750 --> 00:54:53,680
but you know we've gone out with bands

1290
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:55,760
like three days grace nothing more

1291
00:55:00,230 --> 00:54:58,240
breaking benjamin nickelback you know

1292
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:00,240
we've kind of been around

1293
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:03,760
uh oh also shine down and i mean

1294
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:06,880
any of the arena shows

1295
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,480
uh festivals i mean i've never

1296
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,160
i would i would definitely say if anyone

1297
00:55:16,789 --> 00:55:14,000
says rock is dead they're

1298
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:16,799
they're they're not going to shows

1299
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,440
because

1300
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,440
i mean there were you know we played in

1301
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:21,280
um indiana i can't remember the name of

1302
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:22,640
the venue

1303
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:25,520
we played in indiana with uh it was us

1304
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,400
nothing more

1305
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,480
breaking benjamin and five finger death

1306
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:30,640
punch and i think

1307
00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,359
there was like 22 000 people at this

1308
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,520
amphitheater

1309
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,880
um i mean

1310
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:40,319
i don't know i don't see it i mean i

1311
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:42,079
think when when everything was getting

1312
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:43,599
shut down

1313
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:47,200
um we were looking at another revival

1314
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:48,720
of you know because they say things just

1315
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:50,480
kind of go in circles that's right like

1316
00:55:54,549 --> 00:55:51,520
it seemed like you know

1317
00:55:56,309 --> 00:55:54,559
rock was kind of going down and but

1318
00:55:58,549 --> 00:55:56,319
i was i was really start i feeling like

1319
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,559
i was starting to see a resurgence

1320
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:00,640
and you know and once everything kind of

1321
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:02,240
goes back to

1322
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:05,440
normal i mean there's no way you're

1323
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,559
going to be able to keep people from

1324
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:08,079
going to shows now

1325
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:09,680
i have a feeling shows are just going to

1326
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:12,480
be selling out left and right in droves

1327
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:15,599
do you have uh do you

1328
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,720
have any like tour dates booked in 2023

1329
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:22,799
well we still have tour dates booked for

1330
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:25,119
next summer because we had to postpone

1331
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:27,200
we were gonna go out with uh stained and

1332
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,400
disturbed

1333
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:31,359
um in july it was july to september so

1334
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:34,160
we postponed those to july of next year

1335
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,680
so i'm really hoping that we could we

1336
00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:37,280
could keep those dates and keep that

1337
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,319
locked in

1338
00:56:41,589 --> 00:56:40,079
um i mean i was really looking forward

1339
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:41,599
to go out on that like three bands

1340
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,160
amphitheaters in the summer like

1341
00:56:46,710 --> 00:56:45,520
you know yeah you'll catch some summer

1342
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,720
rain every now and again but for the

1343
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:48,079
most part it's you know it's great

1344
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:49,200
weather and it's

1345
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,000
you know now good times before we hit

1346
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,079
the break we've got uh two minutes

1347
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,839
i'm just this is me this is just a

1348
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:57,119
personal question

1349
00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:00,799
yeah is zoltan as cool as i think he is

1350
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:03,040
zoltan is i mean you got to think of it

1351
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:04,480
like this like this guy was an

1352
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,760
immigrant came from nothing came over

1353
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:10,079
from hungary with five dollars in his

1354
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:11,359
pocket

1355
00:57:15,589 --> 00:57:14,160
and you know he's he's got his hands

1356
00:57:17,829 --> 00:57:15,599
everywhere like you know

1357
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:17,839
he has his hands in like bc rich guitars

1358
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:20,000
and you know he helps manage us he's got

1359
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,520
his hands in so many and he's so

1360
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,839
business smart and he's a philanthropist

1361
00:57:27,430 --> 00:57:25,280
you know he's giving back

1362
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:27,440
take yeah he gives back to his community

1363
00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:28,960
and he doesn't like ever brag about it

1364
00:57:33,990 --> 00:57:30,720
like you wouldn't know about it

1365
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:34,000
you know he doesn't tell people about it

1366
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:37,119
um but i mean i mean i think zoltan is

1367
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:38,559
dope and he's definitely

1368
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,559
definitely a person that i look up to

1369
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,240
regardless if you like his band or not

1370
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:44,480
he's just an influential person

1371
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,920
you know i i i can only imagine um i

1372
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,520
mean five finger

1373
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:52,240
uh when they first came out and they got

1374
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:53,760
my attention because they had like the

1375
00:57:56,789 --> 00:57:55,520
coolest name that you could ever have

1376
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:56,799
for a band right let's

1377
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,000
let's just go right there first um but

1378
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,040
they yeah they rock

1379
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:05,200
but they have personality they're funny

1380
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,079
the stage show the presence the way that

1381
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:11,200
yeah the the way uh a full uh

1382
00:58:16,789 --> 00:58:14,240
like a phd in crowd control

1383
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,799
well and see i've also played in every

1384
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:18,880
i've opened up for them in every aspect

1385
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,839
of their career

1386
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:21,839
because i was in a local band in 2005

1387
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:22,960
called grimefield

1388
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:24,799
and we used to open up for them at the

1389
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,640
knitting factory at the whiskey a go-go

1390
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:27,839
before they were ever signed

1391
00:58:32,470 --> 00:58:30,079
right right right and then we and then

1392
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:32,480
when i was in this moment in 2010

1393
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,839
we we played with them on the mayhem

1394
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,280
festival and they were just starting to

1395
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:36,960
open up the main stage

1396
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:39,359
and then now in bad wolves they're the

1397
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:42,000
they're the closers every night you know

1398
00:58:49,270 --> 00:58:45,760
it's got to be totally cool um to uh

1399
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,280
uh to be in front of a crowd like that

1400
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:51,520
uh because when you watch the videos you

1401
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see

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uh not only in your videos but in their

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videos the crowd is there to have a good

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time

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and they don't hold back no no no it's

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great i

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honestly knuckleheads are are great to

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play to

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00:59:06,630 --> 00:59:05,680
knuckleheads i mean they know it's from

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zombie

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00:59:09,349 --> 00:59:07,760
they don't realize that we're going to

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come in hot with songs like you know

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00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:10,160
like i'll be there

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officer down for friend and they're just

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like jesus

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um i remember uh i'm gonna leave you

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00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,000
with this thought

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00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:21,440
and then we're gonna head to a break um

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00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:25,119
when zombie was released when okay

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00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:28,720
when she passed um and

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00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:31,680
the video came out i spoke about all of

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00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:32,160
that

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00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:35,280
on this show and and about bad wolves

1424
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:37,280
and about the video and the story behind

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00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,599
it

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and and the text and and the emails that

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went back and forth

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and to to have you on the show tonight

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uh

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00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,400
to kind of come full circle that's the

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way the universe works man

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00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:50,160
and uh it's a very cool thing so it's an

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00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,599
honor stay right there

1434
00:59:56,309 --> 00:59:53,680
let's take our first break our guest

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00:59:58,829 --> 00:59:56,319
tonight kyle conkel from bad wolves

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01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:58,839
and this is the deal uh when we come

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back

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we're going to swing through everything

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tonight we're going to talk some

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conspiracy with kyle we're going to talk

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ufos

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we're going to talk radio we're going to

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talk about his podcast

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we're going to talk about ndes and i

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01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:14,160
think i'm going gonna squeeze in some

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bigfoot

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all of that and much more after this

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short break i'm yours jimmy church this

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jimmy church of fade to black and you

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and you're listening to jimmy church on

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on the game changer radio network and

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[Music]

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01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:35,029
all right welcome back fade to black i

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01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:36,720
am your host jimmy church

1576
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:39,039
want to remind everybody the programming

1577
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:39,920
changes that

1578
01:05:44,069 --> 01:05:41,680
we did this week tonight of course kyle

1579
01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:44,079
conkel of bad wolves is here

1580
01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:45,839
tomorrow night is fader night tomorrow

1581
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:47,440
night's open lines

1582
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,680
uh jason quit got involved in his own

1583
01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:51,599
conspiracy and we'll talk about that

1584
01:05:54,309 --> 01:05:52,319
later

1585
01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:54,319
and then wednesday night richard dolan

1586
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:56,000
is here to talk about his new book that

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01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:57,280
was just released

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01:06:00,549 --> 01:05:58,960
and then thursday night linda moulton

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howe our annual

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linda moulton howe holiday special event

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01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:05,520
tonight it's kyle coghill and kyle

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01:06:13,190 --> 01:06:09,440
now um getting away from uh music

1593
01:06:15,750 --> 01:06:13,200
uh we'll circle back um but

1594
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:15,760
i'm gonna talk conspiracy and and the in

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01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:16,799
the

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01:06:26,549 --> 01:06:23,280
i got to do your podcast

1597
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:26,559
can can i do it can i can i invite

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01:06:29,510 --> 01:06:27,599
myself

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01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:29,520
yeah let's do it okay all right all

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01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:31,200
right i'm holding you to it

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01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:33,440
okay all right all right i'm the next

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01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:34,240
guest

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01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:37,680
um but conspiracy because

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01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:41,200
uh today uh

1605
01:06:47,029 --> 01:06:44,079
certainly over the last year um

1606
01:06:49,670 --> 01:06:47,039
conspiracy conspiracy theory

1607
01:06:50,950 --> 01:06:49,680
is now in the mainstream right it's all

1608
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:50,960
over it's all over

1609
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:52,960
social media it's all over the media

1610
01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:54,000
it's it's it's

1611
01:06:57,589 --> 01:06:56,400
it's everywhere now it's the main

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01:07:00,309 --> 01:06:57,599
subject

1613
01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:00,319
is this is is this a zone that the

1614
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,799
united states really wants to go into

1615
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:04,400
do we need the whole country to be

1616
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:05,920
conspiracy theorists

1617
01:07:10,789 --> 01:07:08,799
or right or is are we better just in our

1618
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:10,799
own little community

1619
01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:14,240
i mean it's really tough because

1620
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:17,119
if you have the platform and you have

1621
01:07:20,789 --> 01:07:18,480
the money

1622
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:20,799
you can pretty much publish whatever you

1623
01:07:25,910 --> 01:07:22,640
want and make it

1624
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:25,920
seem as legit as possible if you have

1625
01:07:30,230 --> 01:07:27,200
enough people sharing it

1626
01:07:33,029 --> 01:07:30,240
you know um i don't really know

1627
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,039
like there's there's a whole bunch of

1628
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,039
crazy stuff out there that i just

1629
01:07:39,190 --> 01:07:38,160
you know i try to do my due diligence i

1630
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:39,200
try to look up

1631
01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,000
if i see something that i think is you

1632
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:44,160
know regardless of where it comes from i

1633
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:45,200
try to look and see

1634
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:47,680
who owns that website you know what i

1635
01:07:52,789 --> 01:07:48,880
mean i try to see

1636
01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:52,799
if it comes from uh you know regardless

1637
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,000
if you're anti

1638
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,720
um msm or whatever i try to see if it

1639
01:08:00,630 --> 01:07:59,119
comes from at least a somewhat reliable

1640
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,640
source which is so much harder and

1641
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,160
harder to find these days

1642
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:04,880
and do people well okay so you're

1643
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,160
sensible with it

1644
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,880
right who you're i try you're

1645
01:08:11,589 --> 01:08:10,000
professional about

1646
01:08:13,029 --> 01:08:11,599
it you're a professional conspiracy

1647
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:13,039
theorist um

1648
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:16,319
so many don't take that next step

1649
01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:18,560
right i just see the ad and they're just

1650
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:21,279
like that is that goes with what i

1651
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:24,080
i am where i stand i am not going to do

1652
01:08:28,709 --> 01:08:25,600
any research whatsoever

1653
01:08:29,510 --> 01:08:28,719
i'm just going to post it right and is

1654
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:29,520
is not

1655
01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:32,719
having uh some degree

1656
01:08:40,470 --> 01:08:36,480
of discernment uh that's a bad thing

1657
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:40,480
right or sharing without

1658
01:08:46,309 --> 01:08:43,759
uh uh investigating are you

1659
01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:46,319
then becoming part of the problem well i

1660
01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,440
think so but it

1661
01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:49,600
like it like it really depends because

1662
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:50,799
like

1663
01:08:55,749 --> 01:08:54,719
uh bad looking news travels much faster

1664
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:55,759
than any good news

1665
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,040
that's right it doesn't matter what it

1666
01:09:02,470 --> 01:08:59,440
is bad news will always travel

1667
01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:02,480
so much faster than good news and

1668
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:05,359
you know if someone says something and

1669
01:09:08,309 --> 01:09:06,960
it's like a you know something that

1670
01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:08,319
someone

1671
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:12,480
only hear about

1672
01:09:17,910 --> 01:09:16,080
the initial bad thing that somebody says

1673
01:09:19,749 --> 01:09:17,920
and you won't ever really hear the

1674
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:19,759
retraction if it's ever made because

1675
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:21,920
like i said bad news will always

1676
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:25,120
over travel good news yeah i i i

1677
01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:26,640
commented about that you make

1678
01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:28,080
you make one of the best points out

1679
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:30,480
there uh i made that comment about

1680
01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:31,520
retractions

1681
01:09:37,349 --> 01:09:34,560
you can say whatever you want

1682
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:37,359
and the next day retract it it doesn't

1683
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:38,159
matter

1684
01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,520
no the the story has got legs now and

1685
01:09:45,189 --> 01:09:43,279
that's the end of it nobody's ever going

1686
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:45,199
to read a retraction even if you did

1687
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:46,480
retract it

1688
01:09:51,349 --> 01:09:49,679
yeah so it's kind of just like

1689
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:51,359
you know and that and that's kind of why

1690
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:54,080
you know this whole season

1691
01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:57,520
i've i've tried to stay

1692
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:01,120
out of politics i've tried to just

1693
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:04,320
i mean honestly who cares who i who i

1694
01:10:11,270 --> 01:10:08,080
want or what i want to vote for i mean

1695
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:11,280
you know i i've tried to stay as neutral

1696
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:13,280
as possible

1697
01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:16,239
and if i saw something regardless of

1698
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:18,480
what side it come from you know

1699
01:10:24,070 --> 01:10:21,760
uh republican democratic libertarian

1700
01:10:24,790 --> 01:10:24,080
independent what have you i always try

1701
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:24,800
to see

1702
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:27,120
where that source of news is coming from

1703
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:28,080
because

1704
01:10:31,830 --> 01:10:30,560
for the most part all of those like

1705
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:31,840
click-baity

1706
01:10:39,110 --> 01:10:35,679
type headers from those news sources

1707
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:39,120
are all biased every one it's a it's

1708
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,480
opinion every single one of them yeah

1709
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,800
yeah yeah and and i don't do politics on

1710
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:43,440
this show

1711
01:10:49,510 --> 01:10:46,719
as you know and and we it

1712
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,520
seems like we could be talking about

1713
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:51,440
politics right now

1714
01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:53,360
or we could be talking about anything

1715
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,640
else too as well

1716
01:10:58,070 --> 01:10:56,719
so i was listening i was listening to i

1717
01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:58,080
was listening to your show before i came

1718
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,800
on

1719
01:11:01,830 --> 01:11:00,320
and you were talking about the utah

1720
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:01,840
monolith and

1721
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,800
um and i saw this post earlier today i

1722
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:05,840
wish i would have saved it and

1723
01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:06,960
screenshot it

1724
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:10,080
but i saw a post of somebody who was

1725
01:11:14,709 --> 01:11:13,199
apparently there when it was removed

1726
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:14,719
and i don't know if it was removed by

1727
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:16,159
the people who put it there or because i

1728
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:17,679
know it was on private property at least

1729
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:19,040
i think it was on private property if i

1730
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:20,320
read correctly

1731
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:22,080
um but they were just like you got your

1732
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:24,080
pictures cool and they literally just

1733
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:25,360
like pushed it over

1734
01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:28,080
took it in a weird wheelbarrow and left

1735
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:29,120
it like there was

1736
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:30,960
like like it was completely untouched

1737
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:32,640
like there was before and after photos

1738
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:34,080
and all this stuff

1739
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:36,239
and uh and then they climbed up on the

1740
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:37,440
people who were there climbed up on the

1741
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:37,920
rock

1742
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:41,040
and um they were just kind of saying

1743
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,560
how like all these people who had come

1744
01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:44,560
in in droves were like

1745
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:46,239
messing with the area because there's no

1746
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:47,840
roads to this

1747
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:50,080
so they were coming from like 20 sides

1748
01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:51,600
all sides around the mountain like

1749
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:52,400
messing up the

1750
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:55,920
agriculture of the area right right

1751
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,000
you know and uh then there's been a

1752
01:12:03,590 --> 01:12:00,000
couple other things that i've seen

1753
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:03,600
uh over the last six months like um

1754
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:05,760
those there was two different two

1755
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:07,520
different posts about it

1756
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:10,560
um and they were from either vice or la

1757
01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:11,440
times

1758
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:13,440
so i was like okay those are pretty

1759
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:15,600
notable news sources

1760
01:12:19,669 --> 01:12:18,800
um and they had said that they that

1761
01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:19,679
there was

1762
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:23,440
multiple pilots that had saw ufos

1763
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:26,480
or apparently a man in a jet pack

1764
01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:29,280
right right over lax yeah yeah yeah

1765
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:29,760
right and

1766
01:12:34,470 --> 01:12:31,040
there was two different accounts of it

1767
01:12:41,669 --> 01:12:38,550
so i mean i i try to take

1768
01:12:43,430 --> 01:12:41,679
things that i see as a grain of salt uh

1769
01:12:44,709 --> 01:12:43,440
you know i take it at face value

1770
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,719
there's some things that can't be

1771
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:46,480
explained like the uh

1772
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,000
the the tic tac video

1773
01:12:54,229 --> 01:12:52,640
uh i mean you know those were notable

1774
01:12:57,270 --> 01:12:54,239
pilots

1775
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,280
and you know

1776
01:13:00,790 --> 01:12:59,280
there's no explanation for that you know

1777
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:00,800
and then there was like the tom delonge

1778
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:02,080
video which

1779
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,960
was a little bit more grainy and you

1780
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:06,800
know but you know i think the

1781
01:13:10,229 --> 01:13:08,719
air force or somebody came out and said

1782
01:13:13,990 --> 01:13:10,239
like yeah we don't know what that is

1783
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:14,000
yeah that was the navy and uh

1784
01:13:20,709 --> 01:13:18,400
we'll come back to this where did uh

1785
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:20,719
we're gonna get back to the tic tacs uh

1786
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:21,679
trust me

1787
01:13:26,709 --> 01:13:24,719
um where did this interest start uh

1788
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:26,719
with conspiracy did you have crazy

1789
01:13:31,350 --> 01:13:27,920
parents uh

1790
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:31,360
crazy aunt and uncle well

1791
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,199
uh so i have two older brothers they're

1792
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:35,199
10 and 11 years older than me

1793
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:38,400
and i remember distinctively in the

1794
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:42,159
early 90s so between my ages

1795
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:45,440
of like five and

1796
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:48,880
i want to say 10. every single time it

1797
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:49,840
was on tv

1798
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:52,320
my brothers would watch the x-files so

1799
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:54,159
that's kind of where i got started

1800
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:56,640
with with that x-files used to scare me

1801
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:57,679
so bad

1802
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:01,120
um you know being five years old

1803
01:14:06,950 --> 01:14:04,400
but my my stepdad

1804
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:06,960
was really into like aliens and bigfoot

1805
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:08,960
like me and him watch the alien autopsy

1806
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,320
videos

1807
01:14:14,470 --> 01:14:12,400
we would watch anything we watch

1808
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:14,480
twilight zone

1809
01:14:18,709 --> 01:14:17,520
anything that had to do with aliens

1810
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:18,719
bigfoot

1811
01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:21,760
supernatural like he was like he would

1812
01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:24,400
go on like the smokinggun.com

1813
01:14:28,950 --> 01:14:27,920
and like print out stuff like articles

1814
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:28,960
from that website

1815
01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:32,880
right right and

1816
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:36,800
that kind of influence um

1817
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:39,840
was it uh was it something that helped

1818
01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:40,239
you

1819
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:42,000
understand that maybe the world isn't

1820
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:44,480
what you're being spoon-fed

1821
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:47,199
or or did you look at your stepdad as

1822
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:48,080
maybe

1823
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:52,080
he's a little nuts no no i mean uh

1824
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:53,520
basically what it kind of helped me

1825
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:55,120
figure out because i was scared of it at

1826
01:14:58,630 --> 01:14:56,480
first

1827
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:58,640
and then you know going through watching

1828
01:15:01,510 --> 01:15:00,480
all this stuff learning about all this

1829
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:01,520
other stuff

1830
01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:04,239
is just like you know i'm not too keen

1831
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:05,120
on

1832
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:08,239
bigfoot these days but with the alien

1833
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,199
stuff

1834
01:15:12,630 --> 01:15:11,760
especially now you know i feel like it

1835
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:12,640
just

1836
01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:16,480
it makes sense because you know

1837
01:15:21,189 --> 01:15:18,800
if there's infinite amounts of planets

1838
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:21,199
and suns and stars and solar systems

1839
01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:22,560
like

1840
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:25,440
i mean i think you might have to be

1841
01:15:28,870 --> 01:15:26,080
super

1842
01:15:31,110 --> 01:15:28,880
narcissistic or dense to think that we

1843
01:15:34,790 --> 01:15:31,120
are the only beings

1844
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:34,800
in in the universe it's a statistical

1845
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,400
improbability

1846
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:39,600
yeah i mean it just it it has to be well

1847
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:42,239
when i when i run the numbers game uh

1848
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:42,960
let me

1849
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:44,880
throw this at you when you run the

1850
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:46,000
numbers game

1851
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:49,360
and just in our

1852
01:15:53,630 --> 01:15:52,320
milky way where we've got somewhere

1853
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:53,640
between

1854
01:16:00,229 --> 01:15:57,840
500 billion and one trillion stars we

1855
01:16:03,030 --> 01:16:00,239
don't really know the number

1856
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:03,040
just in our milky way and we now know

1857
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:05,440
that every single star

1858
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,640
has at least one planet now wait a

1859
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:10,480
minute here that's that's in our milky

1860
01:16:14,390 --> 01:16:11,280
way

1861
01:16:16,550 --> 01:16:14,400
and then you take that thought

1862
01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:16,560
and then you look at our universe and

1863
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:18,960
what we know of it what we can see

1864
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:22,000
in the observable universe and we know

1865
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:26,320
that there is one trillion

1866
01:16:29,750 --> 01:16:29,199
galaxies right it's like wait a minute

1867
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:29,760
here

1868
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:31,920
you run the numbers and they just they

1869
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:33,520
just go through the roof

1870
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:36,560
so there has to be

1871
01:16:41,270 --> 01:16:39,280
trillions not not a couple but trillions

1872
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,280
of civilizations out there it's just the

1873
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:43,120
only way to look at it right

1874
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:44,719
i mean yeah and you know you could you

1875
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:46,960
could take it as like their

1876
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:49,120
different civilizations or they could be

1877
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:50,320
you know

1878
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:53,120
parallel universes they could be you

1879
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:54,320
know whatever but

1880
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:57,520
i i definitely think that

1881
01:17:02,070 --> 01:17:00,320
out of those trillion possibilities of

1882
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,080
other planets that have civilization

1883
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:04,560
on them there has to be a few that are

1884
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:05,199
as

1885
01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:10,719
more technologically advanced than ours

1886
01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:16,800
now have you ever seen a ufo

1887
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:20,239
yes and no okay give me the yes

1888
01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:23,280
well it's the same story

1889
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:26,400
okay so i mean yes side of the same

1890
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:27,280
story

1891
01:17:30,950 --> 01:17:28,800
all right so i was going down to

1892
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:30,960
hollywood with with a friend

1893
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:34,320
um and i was on the 101 southbound

1894
01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:37,360
in between highland and kawanga right

1895
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:39,679
and uh you know we're in his car you

1896
01:17:43,669 --> 01:17:40,800
know i'm smoking

1897
01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:43,679
smoking cigarettes listening to metal

1898
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:44,080
and

1899
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:47,280
he goes dude what is that

1900
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:50,320
and i look up and this was probably 2011

1901
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:51,679
so you may remember this

1902
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,199
um 2011 or 2012

1903
01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:58,400
and as we're on the freeway just

1904
01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,560
in between highland and kawanga which is

1905
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:02,000
about a mile and a half

1906
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:05,760
maybe oh it's probably

1907
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:08,400
yeah okay i was gonna say that's a

1908
01:18:11,990 --> 01:18:09,760
quarter mile

1909
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:12,000
because that exit comes up really fast

1910
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,440
after highland you got to get in the

1911
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:15,120
right hand lane really quick

1912
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:18,800
yeah or you end up on vine yeah

1913
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:20,960
so he just goes he he points at the sky

1914
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:22,800
and goes dude what is that and i'm like

1915
01:18:25,990 --> 01:18:24,080
i was like i don't see anything any and

1916
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:26,000
then so i look like this sorry i moved

1917
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,199
my head away from the microphone

1918
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:29,040
so i look i kind of duck under the

1919
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:30,719
windshield and look up

1920
01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:34,960
and there's like this green flaming ball

1921
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:38,880
in the sky and it's and i mean

1922
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:41,920
i can't really tell where it's moving

1923
01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:46,870
sorry i can't remember if it was green

1924
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:48,800
or orange like that's how

1925
01:18:51,990 --> 01:18:50,960
uh you know undependable the human

1926
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:52,000
memory is

1927
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:54,480
um but i just remember seeing this ball

1928
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:55,600
of flame in the sky

1929
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,880
just moving and then all of a sudden it

1930
01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:58,640
was gone wow and i

1931
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:00,960
and i remember around that time there

1932
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,560
was a bunch of these

1933
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:05,520
sightings now i never saw anything you

1934
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:07,600
know that was like you know the phoenix

1935
01:19:11,350 --> 01:19:08,640
lights

1936
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:11,360
or you know triangles in the sky or

1937
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:12,640
anything like that

1938
01:19:16,709 --> 01:19:15,360
that's been the closest thing that i've

1939
01:19:19,590 --> 01:19:16,719
personally seen

1940
01:19:20,950 --> 01:19:19,600
but the friend who i was with okay wait

1941
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:20,960
a minute here

1942
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:24,800
this was okay if this is a

1943
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:28,719
sighting that i okay i missed it

1944
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:32,800
let me explain to you that night um

1945
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:34,960
it wasn't even dark yet no it wasn't it

1946
01:19:39,270 --> 01:19:36,560
was not it's like in the day

1947
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:39,280
it was it was um rita and i were at

1948
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:40,960
universal studios

1949
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:44,080
right where you were okay um

1950
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,280
and we leave universal studios

1951
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,360
um like it's like five o'clock in the

1952
01:19:54,390 --> 01:19:50,960
evening right yeah

1953
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:54,400
and we get in our car and we're leaving

1954
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:57,120
and our phone starts ringing

1955
01:20:00,550 --> 01:19:59,040
look what's going on over los angeles

1956
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:00,560
we're like what are you talking about

1957
01:20:04,870 --> 01:20:03,280
and we're driving back on the 101.

1958
01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:04,880
you're going the opposite direction

1959
01:20:09,270 --> 01:20:06,080
you're going to hollywood

1960
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:09,280
we're coming back to burbank and so it's

1961
01:20:14,390 --> 01:20:10,880
behind us

1962
01:20:16,149 --> 01:20:14,400
and we didn't know what everybody was

1963
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:16,159
freaking out on we couldn't see it we're

1964
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:18,400
looking up in the sky we didn't see it

1965
01:20:23,669 --> 01:20:21,600
it was going on behind us um i don't

1966
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:23,679
know if that was ever fully explained

1967
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:26,320
that was seen what was strange about

1968
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:27,280
that sighting

1969
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:30,840
and and you're right about this um

1970
01:20:36,229 --> 01:20:33,760
green blue orange

1971
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,239
it was seen all the way to san francisco

1972
01:20:40,629 --> 01:20:38,320
yeah right i think they saw it in las

1973
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:40,639
vegas yeah yeah that was a pretty

1974
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,000
incredible sighting i still don't know

1975
01:20:47,110 --> 01:20:44,400
what it was i don't think anybody does

1976
01:20:48,709 --> 01:20:47,120
yeah so like that's been the only thing

1977
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:48,719
that i've seen personally

1978
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:51,120
now the friend i was with at the time

1979
01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:52,400
who's like

1980
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:55,520
super like mind you this is like 2011.

1981
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:57,520
he's like super into joe rogan at the

1982
01:21:01,669 --> 01:20:59,840
time he's like you know super into like

1983
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:01,679
dmt and aliens

1984
01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:03,360
and stuff like that and he's like

1985
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,040
claimed to have seen more but he's like

1986
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:07,280
dude that's an alien i swear

1987
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:10,320
and uh i mean so i was like i don't know

1988
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:11,840
what that is so that's why i kind of

1989
01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:13,840
answer yes and no to that because if

1990
01:21:17,350 --> 01:21:14,480
there is an

1991
01:21:18,310 --> 01:21:17,360
explanation for it then cool but if

1992
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:18,320
there's not then

1993
01:21:21,350 --> 01:21:20,800
i i guess i have seen something did you

1994
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:21,360
did you

1995
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:24,560
um uh in your uh

1996
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:27,040
research into this did you did you get

1997
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:28,080
books did you follow

1998
01:21:34,550 --> 01:21:31,280
certain researchers um

1999
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:34,560
not necessarily like the

2000
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:37,120
i haven't really been you know quote

2001
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:38,960
unquote like ufo hunting

2002
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:42,880
too much um if i see something

2003
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:45,760
on you know a documentary about it i'll

2004
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:46,880
check it out

2005
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,960
but yeah i haven't really kept up with

2006
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,800
it other than

2007
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,560
documentaries and watching watching the

2008
01:21:55,510 --> 01:21:54,159
x-files but i'm always kind of

2009
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:55,520
you know i always kind of when i go

2010
01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:58,000
outside i always kind of keep

2011
01:22:02,629 --> 01:21:59,120
you know because it's interesting to

2012
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:02,639
think that like we're this tiny ball

2013
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,880
in a never-ending black mass

2014
01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:08,400
so i'm always kind of keeping my eyes up

2015
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,920
to the sky you know and and there could

2016
01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:11,760
have been things that i saw that

2017
01:22:14,870 --> 01:22:13,440
you know i could be labeled like oh yeah

2018
01:22:17,510 --> 01:22:14,880
i've definitely seen something

2019
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:17,520
but for the most part uh unless it's

2020
01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:18,960
like ridiculously

2021
01:22:22,790 --> 01:22:21,199
fast moving you know because you can see

2022
01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:22,800
satellites at certain times you know you

2023
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:24,719
can see shooting stars you can see

2024
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:25,760
you know there's a whole lot of stuff

2025
01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:28,719
that can be easily explained um

2026
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:32,719
but i haven't found anything in my

2027
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:36,080
stargazing that had made me question

2028
01:22:39,669 --> 01:22:36,639
anything

2029
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:39,679
besides that ball of flame that i saw on

2030
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:40,880
the 101 that day

2031
01:22:44,070 --> 01:22:42,880
now and and you mentioned the tic tac

2032
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:44,080
earlier um

2033
01:22:48,070 --> 01:22:45,760
you know you see something like that in

2034
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:48,080
the sky that's a that's a life-changing

2035
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:48,480
thing

2036
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:52,000
right yeah um and then you hear

2037
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:54,080
the navy and the pentagon say well you

2038
01:22:55,830 --> 01:22:55,199
know we don't know what's in these

2039
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:55,840
videos

2040
01:22:59,030 --> 01:22:57,679
you know they're unidentified aerial

2041
01:23:02,070 --> 01:22:59,040
phenomenon

2042
01:23:02,709 --> 01:23:02,080
um does that make you feel that the

2043
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:02,719
government

2044
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:05,760
is is hiding something from you

2045
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:07,600
now i'm not sure if they would be

2046
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:09,760
particularly hiding things i'm sure that

2047
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:10,719
there is a brand

2048
01:23:14,149 --> 01:23:13,120
if you believe anything that bob lazar

2049
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:14,159
says

2050
01:23:19,430 --> 01:23:17,760
there is a branch of the government that

2051
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:19,440
that does know about this stuff but i

2052
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:20,800
don't think through the

2053
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,400
other branches of the government is

2054
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:24,960
common knowledge

2055
01:23:30,870 --> 01:23:28,880
so i mean there is definitely

2056
01:23:32,790 --> 01:23:30,880
you know i mean there's definitely a ufo

2057
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,800
task force

2058
01:23:35,990 --> 01:23:34,960
you know i don't think that that's like

2059
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:36,000
you know

2060
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:38,159
i don't think that's crazy to say no

2061
01:23:42,390 --> 01:23:39,280
it's not

2062
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:42,400
um i think there has always been a ufo

2063
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:43,679
task force

2064
01:23:47,430 --> 01:23:45,920
yeah right this isn't for them to say

2065
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:47,440
that they've just you know threw out

2066
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:49,120
money at this and they're starting this

2067
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:49,760
and

2068
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,639
uh come on right they've been looking at

2069
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:54,239
this for a long time

2070
01:24:00,149 --> 01:23:57,440
um but uh you just mentioned bob lazar

2071
01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,159
and uh i certainly spoke about bob in my

2072
01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:02,560
opening comments um

2073
01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:05,679
when you hear uh

2074
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:08,719
somebody like bob or bob specifically uh

2075
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:12,880
talk about being at area 51 and seeing

2076
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:15,520
flying saucers in a hangar and backwards

2077
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:18,000
engineering things

2078
01:24:24,310 --> 01:24:21,280
do you do you look at bob like

2079
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:24,320
this is a resource that we need to think

2080
01:24:29,590 --> 01:24:26,560
about we need to listen to this guy

2081
01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:29,600
or is there something else going on

2082
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:30,639
where maybe bob

2083
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:34,000
is you know trying to uh do this for

2084
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:34,639
fame

2085
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:38,080
or or he's got another motive behind it

2086
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:41,199
now i mean i've i've i've followed a

2087
01:24:44,310 --> 01:24:41,920
bunch of

2088
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:44,320
you know podcasts and you know bob

2089
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:45,840
doesn't really do a lot a whole lot of

2090
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:47,040
interviews

2091
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,120
but i mean his story hasn't really

2092
01:24:55,189 --> 01:24:51,440
changed very much

2093
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:55,199
in the 30 years he's been talking about

2094
01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:55,520
it

2095
01:24:59,430 --> 01:24:59,040
right and he stated and i'm sure that we

2096
01:25:03,910 --> 01:24:59,440
can

2097
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:03,920
financial records he's made no money

2098
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:07,040
off of uh off of any of the stuff

2099
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,920
um talking about you know s4 and area 51

2100
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:11,040
and stuff like that

2101
01:25:15,990 --> 01:25:14,400
and i mean i believe him you know there

2102
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:16,000
was stuff that he had talked about in

2103
01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:18,320
1985 that we didn't discover until the

2104
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:19,440
2000s

2105
01:25:26,229 --> 01:25:22,880
you know so i don't think that there's

2106
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:26,239
any reason for him to bs anybody

2107
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:29,280
and you know i think he

2108
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:32,719
is a notable valuable source and i think

2109
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:35,280
if the government were to

2110
01:25:37,910 --> 01:25:36,800
you know because people like oh you know

2111
01:25:39,189 --> 01:25:37,920
the government would probably just kill

2112
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,199
somebody like that

2113
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:41,360
i mean i think that that would look too

2114
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:42,400
suspicious

2115
01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:45,120
if like you know out of nowhere bob

2116
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:46,320
lazar

2117
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,320
is off yeah he hung himself or got no

2118
01:25:54,709 --> 01:25:51,920
car accident or

2119
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:54,719
you know well that that makes him a

2120
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:55,199
martyr

2121
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:58,000
and everything he said was uh was true

2122
01:26:01,350 --> 01:25:58,560
true

2123
01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:01,360
exactly yeah so i don't think if there

2124
01:26:05,350 --> 01:26:02,880
is a guy and i'm sure there's

2125
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:05,360
you know because i know jeremy cordell

2126
01:26:09,270 --> 01:26:06,080
who did the

2127
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:09,280
bob lazar area 51 documentary

2128
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:11,600
um you know he had been raided by like

2129
01:26:15,189 --> 01:26:13,040
the nsa

2130
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:15,199
it was well it was the local detroit

2131
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,560
police but

2132
01:26:19,990 --> 01:26:18,480
uh oh was i thought it was like the fbi

2133
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:20,000
or cia yeah

2134
01:26:25,590 --> 01:26:23,920
well possibly um but uh i don't i'm not

2135
01:26:28,149 --> 01:26:25,600
gonna get into those details

2136
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:28,159
uh but that whole situation broke my

2137
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:28,960
heart is

2138
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:32,159
is what uh that ended up doing uh but

2139
01:26:37,030 --> 01:26:34,159
before we get to the break

2140
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:37,040
uh speaking of bob lazar bob lazar

2141
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:39,120
signed a book deal with tom delong

2142
01:26:45,669 --> 01:26:42,480
right now uh were you

2143
01:26:48,709 --> 01:26:45,679
uh a blink 182 fan before

2144
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:48,719
to the stars um

2145
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:53,760
i mean it's okay it's okay to say no

2146
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:57,120
i'm 34 years old right so when when take

2147
01:27:02,310 --> 01:26:57,679
off your

2148
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:02,320
right and enema of the state came out

2149
01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:05,520
i mean i was 12 and 13. any of the

2150
01:27:08,709 --> 01:27:07,199
tween parties i was going to i was

2151
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:08,719
listening to that that's it and

2152
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:12,080
going back to those like later after

2153
01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:13,440
high school they're great records

2154
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:16,560
oh great records great records hey you

2155
01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:17,040
know what

2156
01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:18,719
i'm going to say this about tom i've

2157
01:27:23,350 --> 01:27:20,239
said that i said this to

2158
01:27:25,830 --> 01:27:23,360
tom right um uh

2159
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:25,840
the ability to

2160
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:27,199
[Music]

2161
01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:30,840
stay punk and write power

2162
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:34,080
choruses like they did right

2163
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:37,199
to get this this pop punk

2164
01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:40,960
thing uh to be so toe tappable

2165
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:43,120
uh that's that's a that's a gift from

2166
01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,000
god

2167
01:27:48,229 --> 01:27:46,400
to write songs like that and they're all

2168
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:48,239
amazing people like i know

2169
01:27:54,229 --> 01:27:51,280
i don't know the members personally

2170
01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:54,239
but i know all of their techs personally

2171
01:27:57,590 --> 01:27:55,920
you know like um

2172
01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:57,600
you know daniel jensen the travis

2173
01:28:01,669 --> 01:27:59,360
barkers tech and robert ortiz

2174
01:28:03,189 --> 01:28:01,679
mark office's tech and they're just the

2175
01:28:05,270 --> 01:28:03,199
nicest dudes

2176
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,280
and the most genuine which is even more

2177
01:28:09,510 --> 01:28:07,440
important than being nice

2178
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,520
are the most genuine dudes that i've met

2179
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:11,120
in or some of the most genuine dudes

2180
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:12,800
i've met in the music industry

2181
01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:16,480
especially working for an act that large

2182
01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:19,440
now uh before we head to the break um

2183
01:28:23,430 --> 01:28:19,840
when

2184
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:23,440
tom started to to talk about this and

2185
01:28:28,390 --> 01:28:25,120
his interest in ufos

2186
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,400
um uh probably really kicked into high

2187
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:30,880
gear about five years ago four years ago

2188
01:28:34,629 --> 01:28:33,040
did that surprise you because he's been

2189
01:28:39,110 --> 01:28:34,639
writing songs

2190
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:39,120
10 years now the way that he had

2191
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:42,159
the way that it had kind of affected the

2192
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:43,120
business

2193
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:45,920
i was kind of like ah dude but it's like

2194
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:46,320
if

2195
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:50,080
that you would be willing

2196
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:52,800
to lose your stake in a multi-million

2197
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:53,600
dollar

2198
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:56,639
brand which was blink 182 then

2199
01:28:59,669 --> 01:28:58,960
you know that's obviously more your

2200
01:29:02,629 --> 01:28:59,679
calling

2201
01:29:03,990 --> 01:29:02,639
than the band itself do you think that

2202
01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:04,000
walking away was

2203
01:29:09,270 --> 01:29:07,280
was that kind of statement yeah i mean

2204
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:09,280
definitely i think that he was like you

2205
01:29:14,709 --> 01:29:11,840
know what this is what i want to do

2206
01:29:15,750 --> 01:29:14,719
i don't like um i'll play music if i

2207
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:15,760
want to

2208
01:29:19,750 --> 01:29:18,320
but i mean he's in a financial position

2209
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:19,760
to basically

2210
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:22,080
do whatever he wants i mean i'm sure he

2211
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:24,400
still gets residuals for those four or

2212
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:25,360
five

2213
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,600
plat multi platinum selling records i

2214
01:29:30,870 --> 01:29:29,520
mean you know he ain't hurting he ain't

2215
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:30,880
down at the food bank you know what i

2216
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:31,199
mean

2217
01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:33,760
no no not at all let's take our break

2218
01:29:36,709 --> 01:29:34,400
right here

2219
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:36,719
our guest tonight kyle conkel of bad

2220
01:29:39,669 --> 01:29:37,520
wolves

2221
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:39,679
and uh we're gonna continue all of this

2222
01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:42,719
conspiracies ufos bigfoot

2223
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:45,600
and music the rock and roll when we come

2224
01:29:54,090 --> 01:30:06,950
[Music]

2225
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:10,070
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2226
01:30:15,030 --> 01:30:13,199
you're listening to fade to black

2227
01:30:17,110 --> 01:30:15,040
always on the edge of the hottest

2228
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welcome back paid to black i'm yours

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jimmy church our guest tonight kyle

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we're doing a little bit of everything

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tonight we're talking some music

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01:34:31,830 --> 01:34:28,790
and i want to stay on this

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01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:31,840
subject of uh of of tom delong for a

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01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:32,719
second

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and you know here he is a musician you

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know blink 182

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all of that is of note but he

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uh nearly single-handedly with a to the

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stars

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01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:47,119
uh brought the subject of ufos into the

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mainstream

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01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:49,760
suddenly you know we've got tucker

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01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:51,920
carlson and and fox

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01:34:57,669 --> 01:34:55,040
uh the presidents uh the senate

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01:35:00,310 --> 01:34:57,679
it's all over media now were you

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01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:00,320
surprised to see

2319
01:35:06,550 --> 01:35:04,560
the world embrace this and not freak out

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01:35:08,950 --> 01:35:06,560
i wouldn't say i was so much surprised

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01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:08,960
as i was like all right well maybe

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01:35:14,310 --> 01:35:12,000
the human race isn't you know

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01:35:15,990 --> 01:35:14,320
maybe we are ready for something like

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this especially when he was getting

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notable people to back his company as

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well

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i don't remember exactly who he was but

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01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:23,199
uh there was someone from like

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the navy or nasa or somebody was like

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working for his company right right

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and uh you know the the

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stories from the past uh whether it was

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from

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you know the pentagon directly or

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politicians uh corporate heads thinkers

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um philosophers the vatican

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that the world wasn't ready for it and

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if they found out that

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aliens are visiting this planet uh

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all hell's gonna break loose right

2341
01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:57,119
there's going to be anarchy there's

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everything's going to crash religions

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the stock market

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uh it's going to be crazy town and yeah

2345
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:05,679
and that certainly didn't happen when

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when the new york times started to break

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this story

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no and i think like especially this year

2349
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because there was some more

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more and more ufo stuff breaking into

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the mainstream media

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and it was almost like most people

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didn't seem to care

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really or maybe they thought it was bs

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or or what have you but

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i mean it's it's like you know what

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tommy lee jones said in men in black

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to will smith when he was gonna make him

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an agent you know

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people like the person is smart

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intelligent and knows how to handle

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things but

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people are stupid and and

2364
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you know scared so yeah obviously that

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wasn't verbatim

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01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:51,520
but i mean

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i don't know it's cool to see this stuff

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popping up in mainstream media and

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you know going back to the um

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conspiracy kind of surge that we've had

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this year

2372
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i can understand that maybe some people

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are just like ah this is just more

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01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:13,760
malarkey or whatever you know so

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i enjoy it and i try you know like i

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01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:18,480
said i try to do research as much as

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as much as possible when it comes to

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what sites are

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producing certain uh articles

2380
01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:28,560
but you know that's just me

2381
01:37:37,189 --> 01:37:33,199
yeah what do you think uh ultimate

2382
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:37,199
uh in 2021 if this continues on the path

2383
01:37:41,030 --> 01:37:38,159
that it is

2384
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:41,040
right this movement towards disclosure

2385
01:37:43,270 --> 01:37:42,400
disclosure means so many different

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01:37:46,629 --> 01:37:43,280
things

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01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:46,639
but but certainly in the ufo community

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01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:49,760
disclosure is uh the president

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you know speaking on live television we

2390
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are not alone

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01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:57,119
right independence day um

2392
01:38:01,030 --> 01:37:58,960
do you think that that's a possibility

2393
01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:01,040
for 2020 when do you think that this is

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01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:02,719
going to continue

2395
01:38:05,910 --> 01:38:04,719
to move in that direction now that

2396
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:05,920
conspiracy is

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01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:08,560
is completely out of the closet now and

2398
01:38:12,390 --> 01:38:10,480
and in the mainstream

2399
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,400
well so i'm going to say something that

2400
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:14,239
maybe not a lot of people agree with

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01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:14,960
here

2402
01:38:20,149 --> 01:38:17,760
but i really don't think that the

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01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:20,159
president

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01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:23,520
in any form really knows what's going on

2405
01:38:27,270 --> 01:38:26,000
with the the ufo task force why do you

2406
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:27,280
say that

2407
01:38:30,709 --> 01:38:29,920
i mean i know you don't talk politics

2408
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:30,719
here

2409
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:33,119
but just look at the last four years yo

2410
01:38:35,669 --> 01:38:33,760
if there was

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01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:35,679
aliens donald trump would have been

2412
01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:37,119
tweeting about that

2413
01:38:40,940 --> 01:38:39,760
i really think he would have i i've said

2414
01:38:42,709 --> 01:38:40,950
that many times

2415
01:38:44,870 --> 01:38:42,719
[Laughter]

2416
01:38:46,310 --> 01:38:44,880
like that guy that guy can't keep his

2417
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:46,320
mouth shut about anything

2418
01:38:49,910 --> 01:38:48,320
right right so you really think that he

2419
01:38:52,950 --> 01:38:49,920
would hold in he'll be like no

2420
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:52,960
like listen there's aliens i've seen the

2421
01:38:57,189 --> 01:38:55,600
paperwork

2422
01:38:58,709 --> 01:38:57,199
i've seen the documents i've seen the

2423
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:58,719
footage it's the best footage of any

2424
01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:00,960
alien you've ever seen

2425
01:39:07,430 --> 01:39:04,719
well done um and

2426
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:07,440
there is uh we don't do politics but

2427
01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:08,800
there is

2428
01:39:12,390 --> 01:39:10,239
the elephant in the room right there's

2429
01:39:15,590 --> 01:39:12,400
50 days left um

2430
01:39:17,189 --> 01:39:15,600
in in trump's administration allegedly

2431
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:17,199
we'll see what happens december december

2432
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:19,360
14th when the electoral college

2433
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:21,760
um all those votes are counted you know

2434
01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:22,800
yeah right

2435
01:39:26,070 --> 01:39:25,600
do you think uh if donald knows

2436
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:26,080
something

2437
01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:28,960
that he would let loose maybe and and

2438
01:39:32,229 --> 01:39:29,360
just

2439
01:39:34,310 --> 01:39:32,239
throw caution to the wind and and maybe

2440
01:39:36,629 --> 01:39:34,320
tweet something about ufos

2441
01:39:37,590 --> 01:39:36,639
i mean i don't know what his daily

2442
01:39:41,430 --> 01:39:37,600
vitamin

2443
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:41,440
cocktail is but he has always been kind

2444
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,480
of

2445
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:44,880
um and this is and this is all politics

2446
01:39:48,070 --> 01:39:45,840
aside

2447
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,080
um he's always been kind of a manic

2448
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,760
tweeter

2449
01:39:53,750 --> 01:39:52,639
i i really think if he knew like

2450
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:53,760
december 14th

2451
01:39:56,950 --> 01:39:55,520
we'll all know what it is we're not

2452
01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:56,960
going to get into any of that

2453
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:00,480
um but i think december 15th

2454
01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:03,199
if it turns out that you know the new

2455
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:04,159
president-elect

2456
01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:07,760
is joe biden you know he might

2457
01:40:15,189 --> 01:40:14,229
uh i'm not really sure i would think

2458
01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:15,199
probably

2459
01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:17,440
just because of all the stuff that we've

2460
01:40:20,550 --> 01:40:19,119
all seen over the last four years that

2461
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:20,560
he might just go out

2462
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:23,600
use that that at potus on twitter

2463
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:25,920
just one last time and get real cray

2464
01:40:29,250 --> 01:40:27,199
with it you know yeah yeah

2465
01:40:32,950 --> 01:40:29,260
let let biden deal with this

2466
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:32,960
[Laughter]

2467
01:40:38,950 --> 01:40:36,080
that would be hilarious yes

2468
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:38,960
yes and and sad at the same time and

2469
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:39,520
cool

2470
01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:42,320
at the same time you know you know if he

2471
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:43,920
like if he waits until like you know

2472
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:44,639
december

2473
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:47,600
13th 14th where they're like listen don

2474
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:48,480
i'm sorry you're not gonna be the

2475
01:40:53,590 --> 01:40:51,679
president anymore uh and he's just like

2476
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:53,600
just starts going on an all-out rampage

2477
01:40:57,350 --> 01:40:54,800
on twitter

2478
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:57,360
and starts revealing government secrets

2479
01:41:05,189 --> 01:40:58,800
2 a.m

2480
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:05,199
uh yeah string of tweets i could see it

2481
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:06,320
happening

2482
01:41:12,310 --> 01:41:09,760
and and this is uh um

2483
01:41:14,229 --> 01:41:12,320
this is the thing that when we talk

2484
01:41:17,189 --> 01:41:14,239
about conspiracy theory

2485
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:17,199
um which i enjoy uh and i enjoy the

2486
01:41:21,910 --> 01:41:19,440
research i keep myself sane

2487
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:21,920
i know that you heard uh my opening

2488
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:24,239
statements i keep myself sane by not

2489
01:41:30,550 --> 01:41:27,600
going all in i just i just don't do it

2490
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:30,560
yeah same you have to operate that way

2491
01:41:34,149 --> 01:41:31,119
um

2492
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:34,159
but the the last

2493
01:41:40,950 --> 01:41:37,520
four years i had said do we really

2494
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:44,790
it's like this the disclosure movement

2495
01:41:51,750 --> 01:41:48,719
wants and believes and just prays

2496
01:41:53,510 --> 01:41:51,760
and hopes for the day that this is all

2497
01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:53,520
openly discussed in the senate in

2498
01:41:57,109 --> 01:41:54,480
congress

2499
01:41:58,870 --> 01:41:57,119
uh from the oval office and from the

2500
01:42:00,709 --> 01:41:58,880
pentagon the military

2501
01:42:02,709 --> 01:42:00,719
let's just get this all out there

2502
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:02,719
because they have lives invested

2503
01:42:08,470 --> 01:42:05,840
right 30 years 40 years into the subject

2504
01:42:09,990 --> 01:42:08,480
of of ridicule and tinfoil hats and

2505
01:42:12,709 --> 01:42:10,000
we're the crazy ones

2506
01:42:13,750 --> 01:42:12,719
where finally they can get some relief

2507
01:42:15,510 --> 01:42:13,760
in the pressure

2508
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:15,520
right and have the stuff discussed out

2509
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:17,920
in the open i said the opposite

2510
01:42:23,830 --> 01:42:21,040
i don't really know if that's what we

2511
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:23,840
want out of washington uh whether it's

2512
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:26,320
the white house or the pentagon do we

2513
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:29,360
really want this stuff openly

2514
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:32,880
discussed i'm not so sure because

2515
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:36,320
i believe that there are uh

2516
01:42:40,990 --> 01:42:39,679
uh people in the pentagon

2517
01:42:43,030 --> 01:42:41,000
in the military in the military

2518
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:43,040
military-industrial complex

2519
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,880
that believe in conspiracies just like

2520
01:42:48,390 --> 01:42:46,480
we do right of course

2521
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,400
right all right well no i know somebody

2522
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:50,239
works for the dod

2523
01:42:53,830 --> 01:42:52,960
and he there there are certain things

2524
01:42:55,910 --> 01:42:53,840
that he believes in

2525
01:42:57,510 --> 01:42:55,920
that are you know working for the

2526
01:42:59,720 --> 01:42:57,520
department of defense you probably

2527
01:43:02,070 --> 01:42:59,730
shouldn't

2528
01:43:03,590 --> 01:43:02,080
[Laughter]

2529
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:03,600
you guys can't see it but kyle's

2530
01:43:07,750 --> 01:43:05,360
laughing uh uh

2531
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:07,760
as he says but that's exactly my point

2532
01:43:11,990 --> 01:43:08,719
right yeah

2533
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:12,000
yeah these are uh

2534
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:14,400
these are the people that are in control

2535
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:15,440
of

2536
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:18,880
our defenses right nuclear missiles

2537
01:43:26,149 --> 01:43:22,080
yeah fleets of jets do we

2538
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:26,159
is that a zone where we need to go into

2539
01:43:29,990 --> 01:43:28,560
i'm not so sure no and then we're going

2540
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:30,000
to be voting on

2541
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:31,679
you know each state's going to be voting

2542
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:33,119
on all right who's going to send the

2543
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:35,280
nuke up to that spaceship

2544
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:37,600
this year you know what i mean like i

2545
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:38,320
don't know

2546
01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:41,199
like i'm cool with it being how it is

2547
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:41,760
kind of like

2548
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:43,600
low-key underground and honestly i'll

2549
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:44,800
take i'll take an

2550
01:43:51,189 --> 01:43:47,920
old-school tinfoil hat over

2551
01:43:54,070 --> 01:43:51,199
any of the new school tinfoil hats

2552
01:43:56,470 --> 01:43:54,080
any day you know what i mean i do i do

2553
01:43:59,510 --> 01:43:56,480
i'm right there with you i i like uh

2554
01:44:01,270 --> 01:43:59,520
i like our conspiracies kept to us and

2555
01:44:04,790 --> 01:44:01,280
i'll tell you why

2556
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:04,800
we in the conspiracy theory community

2557
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:07,920
know how to deal with it yeah right we

2558
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:09,280
know how to deal with it we've been

2559
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,560
dealing with it forever and

2560
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:14,719
i'm i'm just not so sure you know you

2561
01:44:19,910 --> 01:44:15,679
got to be careful

2562
01:44:21,669 --> 01:44:19,920
what you wish for what do you make of uh

2563
01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:21,679
the conversations that have been going

2564
01:44:27,030 --> 01:44:23,119
around lately

2565
01:44:29,350 --> 01:44:27,040
about uh a fake alien invasion

2566
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:29,360
oh i've not heard about that oh you

2567
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:30,239
haven't

2568
01:44:34,310 --> 01:44:33,280
no okay well let me throw this out there

2569
01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:34,320
at you

2570
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,000
throw it at me there is uh

2571
01:44:41,189 --> 01:44:40,000
a pretty solid conspiracy theory it's

2572
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:41,199
been going around for

2573
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,199
a couple of decades called project

2574
01:44:52,870 --> 01:44:44,800
bluebeam

2575
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:52,880
stay with me on this kyle uh uh

2576
01:44:58,310 --> 01:44:55,920
a holographic image projected in the sky

2577
01:44:59,750 --> 01:44:58,320
you can do with it what you want right

2578
01:45:03,590 --> 01:44:59,760
and there i did it with tupac

2579
01:45:06,790 --> 01:45:03,600
uh did it did it with uh dio right yeah

2580
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:06,800
yeah so uh uh in the

2581
01:45:14,830 --> 01:45:11,119
original uh uh uh desert storm

2582
01:45:17,830 --> 01:45:14,840
like uh images of

2583
01:45:20,310 --> 01:45:17,840
uh allah in the sky

2584
01:45:21,510 --> 01:45:20,320
right project and freaking out the iraqi

2585
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:21,520
soldiers

2586
01:45:25,189 --> 01:45:24,159
right and using that kind of technology

2587
01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:25,199
um

2588
01:45:35,750 --> 01:45:31,840
holographic images are reality today

2589
01:45:39,350 --> 01:45:35,760
um but to fake an alien invasion

2590
01:45:44,070 --> 01:45:39,360
to unite the world right project

2591
01:45:47,430 --> 01:45:44,080
uh independence day over los angeles

2592
01:45:50,629 --> 01:45:47,440
and moscow and and london

2593
01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:50,639
and and have these crafts up there uh

2594
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:54,080
do you the reason why would this

2595
01:45:58,550 --> 01:45:56,560
would this go along with the you know

2596
01:46:00,550 --> 01:45:58,560
the conspiracy of the new world order

2597
01:46:02,709 --> 01:46:00,560
yeah but that's exactly it and that's

2598
01:46:03,910 --> 01:46:02,719
how that would be the first stage

2599
01:46:24,550 --> 01:46:03,920
that was so that would be the first

2600
01:46:30,470 --> 01:46:28,950
i mean i really think that if they were

2601
01:46:33,590 --> 01:46:30,480
going to

2602
01:46:36,870 --> 01:46:33,600
fake an alien invasion i really think

2603
01:46:38,310 --> 01:46:36,880
like yo a virus

2604
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,320
and everybody bought all the toilet

2605
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:40,320
paper right if if mf

2606
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:44,159
starts seeing alien battles in the sky

2607
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:47,840
like that

2608
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:50,239
that will not be good we saw how people

2609
01:46:53,830 --> 01:46:52,560
handled

2610
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:53,840
a virus in the beginning when they're

2611
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:55,920
like all right we're gonna lock down

2612
01:46:59,350 --> 01:46:58,000
all the canned food was gone you

2613
01:47:03,270 --> 01:46:59,360
couldn't buy a gun

2614
01:47:06,830 --> 01:47:03,280
for four months you still can't buy ammo

2615
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:06,840
not in los angeles no not in los

2616
01:47:10,629 --> 01:47:10,080
angeles i mean i really think that that

2617
01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:10,639
would do

2618
01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:13,440
a lot more harm than good and there will

2619
01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:14,719
be

2620
01:47:20,830 --> 01:47:18,480
many many many casualties brought on by

2621
01:47:23,669 --> 01:47:20,840
a holographic image

2622
01:47:27,510 --> 01:47:23,679
um i'm not too sure like that's

2623
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:29,430
i don't know and and i think that this

2624
01:47:35,669 --> 01:47:32,320
is uh the point

2625
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:35,679
where i start to think about

2626
01:47:41,669 --> 01:47:38,800
the suggestions of a fake alien invasion

2627
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:41,679
and the tic tac videos suddenly the

2628
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:43,840
pentagon and the senate are talking

2629
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:47,920
ufos that is there

2630
01:47:54,070 --> 01:47:51,040
is there a chance that

2631
01:47:57,270 --> 01:47:54,080
the government knows that something is

2632
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:57,280
about to happen that they know somebody

2633
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:58,480
is on their way to earth

2634
01:48:02,790 --> 01:48:01,440
something that is out of their control

2635
01:48:05,109 --> 01:48:02,800
well i mean if you if you

2636
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:05,119
it on there are multiple different ways

2637
01:48:09,350 --> 01:48:06,639
you can look at this

2638
01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:09,360
there can be the the task force that

2639
01:48:15,189 --> 01:48:11,440
maybe they've already come into contact

2640
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:15,199
right right another another species um

2641
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:18,000
there's the you know the breakaway

2642
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:19,679
civilization theory

2643
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:22,159
that you know humans from hundreds of

2644
01:48:26,070 --> 01:48:24,320
thousands of years ago broke away

2645
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:26,080
flew into space because they were just

2646
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:27,679
as technologically advanced as we were

2647
01:48:31,109 --> 01:48:28,800
if not more

2648
01:48:31,990 --> 01:48:31,119
and have come back in trying times to

2649
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:32,000
try to help us

2650
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,950
i don't i'm not i'm not too sure i mean

2651
01:48:43,990 --> 01:48:39,920
i think

2652
01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:44,000
if something was going to happen we

2653
01:48:47,430 --> 01:48:45,920
and anybody affiliated with the

2654
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:47,440
government i don't think that they would

2655
01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:48,480
know i don't think it's get i don't

2656
01:48:50,470 --> 01:48:49,679
think it would be like a movie where

2657
01:48:52,149 --> 01:48:50,480
it's just like

2658
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,159
you have one hour to give us what we

2659
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:54,239
want or we're gonna destroy your planet

2660
01:48:57,030 --> 01:48:55,679
i think if they wanted to come in and

2661
01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:57,040
destroy the planet they would have

2662
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:57,600
already

2663
01:49:02,629 --> 01:48:59,760
yeah they would have taken it over or

2664
01:49:03,910 --> 01:49:02,639
maybe that's exactly what happened

2665
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:03,920
and that's why we're living in a

2666
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:05,760
simulation you know what i mean

2667
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:08,239
like it could be that too and we're you

2668
01:49:10,790 --> 01:49:09,520
know it's kind of like the matrix like

2669
01:49:12,870 --> 01:49:10,800
we're powering

2670
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:12,880
the world that the aliens have taken

2671
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:14,159
over and

2672
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:17,040
and we have uh we're gonna go right back

2673
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:17,599
to that

2674
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:20,639
thought uh let's table that for a second

2675
01:49:24,870 --> 01:49:23,679
um in the media it's not just ufos right

2676
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:24,880
we have

2677
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:27,119
fast radio bursts right that we're

2678
01:49:31,830 --> 01:49:28,000
detecting

2679
01:49:35,109 --> 01:49:31,840
uh uh new exoplanets every single day

2680
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:35,119
we've got asteroid flybys we've got

2681
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:38,639
all of the suggestion uh about

2682
01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:40,480
uh what is going on out there in the

2683
01:49:44,709 --> 01:49:42,000
universe and it has been

2684
01:49:46,229 --> 01:49:44,719
constant over the last couple of years

2685
01:49:49,589 --> 01:49:46,239
this has been spoon fed

2686
01:49:50,709 --> 01:49:49,599
out into the public um is it to

2687
01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:50,719
acclimate us

2688
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:54,320
uh to uh alien contact

2689
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:57,440
i mean i think you know

2690
01:50:01,270 --> 01:50:00,000
the way to do it would be to drip feed

2691
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:01,280
everybody

2692
01:50:04,709 --> 01:50:03,360
small bits of information here are there

2693
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:04,719
and then like

2694
01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:07,440
you know you saw how people reacted to

2695
01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:09,040
um

2696
01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:10,960
you know any major ufo news this year

2697
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:12,159
was kind of just like you know unless

2698
01:50:15,430 --> 01:50:13,360
you're really into it

2699
01:50:17,270 --> 01:50:15,440
it was kind of just like meh so the drip

2700
01:50:19,189 --> 01:50:17,280
feed you little bits and bits and bits

2701
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:19,199
drop something big see what the reaction

2702
01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:21,520
is oh no one's panicking no one's doing

2703
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:23,360
drip drip drip something and then you

2704
01:50:26,229 --> 01:50:24,639
know who knows

2705
01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:26,239
next year we could get something much

2706
01:50:29,510 --> 01:50:28,080
bigger and then we can

2707
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,520
they can gauge the reaction of the

2708
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:31,119
people from that and

2709
01:50:34,870 --> 01:50:33,840
i mean it definitely seems plausible

2710
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:34,880
that they're just kind of

2711
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:38,000
you know just giving us the dripper and

2712
01:50:44,149 --> 01:50:42,000
uh or we haven't had contact you know

2713
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:44,159
it's one of those things you know

2714
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:46,159
but i think if there was going to be a

2715
01:50:50,950 --> 01:50:47,679
detrimental

2716
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,960
um alien attack

2717
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:52,800
would have happened or we would never

2718
01:50:57,350 --> 01:50:54,159
actually know about it

2719
01:50:59,990 --> 01:50:57,360
now okay so let's go back to those uh

2720
01:51:01,109 --> 01:51:00,000
those videos those three videos uh what

2721
01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:01,119
was your reaction

2722
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:04,880
when you first saw them did you see ufos

2723
01:51:12,070 --> 01:51:08,400
or did you not what the tic tac video

2724
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:12,080
yes i mean i've never seen

2725
01:51:17,350 --> 01:51:15,199
anything move like that

2726
01:51:18,550 --> 01:51:17,360
i mean you're going from like just above

2727
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:18,560
sea level

2728
01:51:22,709 --> 01:51:21,280
to where fighter jets are flying within

2729
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,719
seconds

2730
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:24,400
you know campy it wasn't picked up by

2731
01:51:28,629 --> 01:51:26,159
any of the radar

2732
01:51:30,470 --> 01:51:28,639
i mean it was but the movements weren't

2733
01:51:31,589 --> 01:51:30,480
right it was moving so fast that in the

2734
01:51:33,430 --> 01:51:31,599
time that it takes

2735
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:33,440
the radar to spin all the way around it

2736
01:51:39,430 --> 01:51:35,040
couldn't pick up

2737
01:51:41,109 --> 01:51:39,440
its movements from there and i mean

2738
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,119
it looks funny it might not be what we

2739
01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:43,440
think an alien spacecraft

2740
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:46,159
looks like but it could it could have

2741
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,040
been

2742
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:49,920
a type of reconnaissance ship it doesn't

2743
01:51:54,950 --> 01:51:50,719
have to be

2744
01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:54,960
a big battle alien ship because you know

2745
01:51:58,629 --> 01:51:56,800
people can see those i mean unless you

2746
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:58,639
know you go based on the fact that they

2747
01:52:03,910 --> 01:52:00,320
have camouflaging

2748
01:52:06,470 --> 01:52:03,920
um techniques and and what have you

2749
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:06,480
but if they were just coming down to

2750
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:08,320
look at stuff

2751
01:52:12,070 --> 01:52:09,840
i mean i don't think you'd have to bring

2752
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:12,080
a big ship no look what

2753
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:13,520
you see and that's that's one of the

2754
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:15,599
best points it could and it might not

2755
01:52:18,870 --> 01:52:16,080
even have been

2756
01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:18,880
manned we have drones that could have

2757
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,000
been a space drone

2758
01:52:23,750 --> 01:52:22,080
we're flying stuff to mars and jupiter

2759
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:23,760
and saturn all the time

2760
01:52:29,270 --> 01:52:26,800
right uh probes and landing stuff and

2761
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:29,280
checking out the planet certainly that

2762
01:52:32,229 --> 01:52:30,080
would be

2763
01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:32,239
the best and most efficient way for e.t

2764
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:33,840
to be checking out earth

2765
01:52:38,229 --> 01:52:36,159
it doesn't have to be piloted by little

2766
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:38,239
green men necessarily does it

2767
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:39,679
no it could be it could have been a

2768
01:52:44,310 --> 01:52:42,080
reconnaissance drone

2769
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:44,320
and i mean it the way it moves moved

2770
01:52:48,629 --> 01:52:45,520
similarly

2771
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:48,639
to how our drones move up and down left

2772
01:52:53,189 --> 01:52:49,599
and right

2773
01:52:56,550 --> 01:52:53,199
you know it didn't move like a spaceship

2774
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:56,560
or like an aircraft would you be okay if

2775
01:53:02,709 --> 01:53:00,400
uh it was revealed that it was

2776
01:53:03,589 --> 01:53:02,719
our technology not necessarily the

2777
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:03,599
united states

2778
01:53:09,830 --> 01:53:06,719
could have been being tested on our

2779
01:53:12,310 --> 01:53:09,840
own uh navy maybe

2780
01:53:14,310 --> 01:53:12,320
would you be surprised if it was the

2781
01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:14,320
russians or the chinese

2782
01:53:19,669 --> 01:53:18,080
invading our airspace uh that would be

2783
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:19,679
definitely concerning

2784
01:53:24,229 --> 01:53:22,560
because you know with russia and china i

2785
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:24,239
know we're not in the best of standings

2786
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:26,320
you know they're not our allies

2787
01:53:30,229 --> 01:53:29,599
um but i think if it if it came to find

2788
01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:30,239
out

2789
01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:34,000
that those tic tacs were russian

2790
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:36,000
china any other country that was

2791
01:53:39,830 --> 01:53:37,679
invading our airspace

2792
01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:39,840
to see if they could fool our navy into

2793
01:53:42,790 --> 01:53:41,280
thinking that it was something else

2794
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:42,800
i mean i mean you might as well just

2795
01:53:46,709 --> 01:53:44,320
sign that world war 3 document right

2796
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:46,719
there yeah that's right

2797
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:50,320
would that be scarier than ufos

2798
01:53:57,030 --> 01:53:53,760
right nuclear holocaust scares me more

2799
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:57,040
than ufos yeah that's exactly the point

2800
01:54:01,430 --> 01:54:00,560
you know uh i i i if if it came to that

2801
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:01,440
i wanted to be

2802
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:04,560
alien and i still do i mean i really do

2803
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:07,920
i'm just not so sure what my eyes are

2804
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:08,800
seeing

2805
01:54:14,870 --> 01:54:11,840
um what i do find interesting here

2806
01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:14,880
is that there seems to be or

2807
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:17,920
was a certain amount of cooperation uh

2808
01:54:22,229 --> 01:54:19,360
between the pentagon

2809
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:22,239
and and tom delong and his company and

2810
01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:24,800
and why do it and why do it now

2811
01:54:29,430 --> 01:54:27,679
do you ever ask yourself that question

2812
01:54:31,510 --> 01:54:29,440
um

2813
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,520
not really just because there's always

2814
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:33,679
been kind of like

2815
01:54:37,350 --> 01:54:36,000
there's always been those kind of

2816
01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:37,360
throughout the years

2817
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:39,119
you know every now and again you'll hear

2818
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:40,560
something like oh there was the you know

2819
01:54:42,950 --> 01:54:41,280
the like

2820
01:54:44,550 --> 01:54:42,960
like the phoenix lights you know that

2821
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:44,560
was kind of a kind of a big news story

2822
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:45,760
that wasn't really

2823
01:54:52,790 --> 01:54:49,760
shoved under the under the carpet um

2824
01:54:55,109 --> 01:54:52,800
i mean i don't know and i mean all the

2825
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:55,119
testimonies from the pilots that saw the

2826
01:54:57,990 --> 01:54:56,000
tic tac

2827
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:58,000
like uh i think his name is lieutenant

2828
01:55:03,189 --> 01:54:59,360
faber yeah

2829
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:03,199
fravor fravor i'm sorry yeah dave fraver

2830
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:05,119
i mean that's a guy who's been in the

2831
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:07,040
military a long time those guys get

2832
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:09,360
psyche valves those guys get tests

2833
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:11,360
all the time especially being a pilot

2834
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:12,400
you know what i mean

2835
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:15,920
landing on an aircraft carrier exactly

2836
01:55:21,589 --> 01:55:18,960
like yo right so i mean

2837
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:21,599
i kind of just take it i take it at more

2838
01:55:26,229 --> 01:55:23,679
than face value but i kind of

2839
01:55:26,790 --> 01:55:26,239
i kind of file it into the documents of

2840
01:55:32,950 --> 01:55:26,800
like

2841
01:55:35,510 --> 01:55:32,960
lieutenant fravor you know what i mean

2842
01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:38,149
i don't know now you're from the valley

2843
01:55:40,790 --> 01:55:38,719
yeah yeah

2844
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:40,800
uh born and raised in burma born and

2845
01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:41,760
raised in burbank

2846
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:43,920
same hospital that our daughters were

2847
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:45,679
was born at saint joe right across the

2848
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:46,960
street from johnny carson you know what

2849
01:55:49,189 --> 01:55:47,360
i mean

2850
01:55:50,390 --> 01:55:49,199
that is you know what that is one of the

2851
01:55:53,510 --> 01:55:50,400
trippiest things

2852
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:53,520
um when you look at saint joe

2853
01:55:56,629 --> 01:55:55,040
and then you look across the street at

2854
01:56:00,149 --> 01:55:56,639
the tonight show

2855
01:56:02,229 --> 01:56:00,159
right buena vista and alameda man

2856
01:56:04,470 --> 01:56:02,239
so but did you know that bob lazarus

2857
01:56:07,109 --> 01:56:04,480
from the valley

2858
01:56:08,950 --> 01:56:07,119
um after i had you know i'd watched the

2859
01:56:11,510 --> 01:56:08,960
documentary i kind of i

2860
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:11,520
i kind of figured out that he was from

2861
01:56:15,830 --> 01:56:12,719
from the valley

2862
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:15,840
went to pierce college oh man that's

2863
01:56:20,550 --> 01:56:18,000
literally the valley that is the actual

2864
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:20,560
valley that is the actual valley

2865
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:24,400
um uh before we uh uh head to a break

2866
01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:25,360
right here

2867
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:28,480
um and and staying on this

2868
01:56:32,790 --> 01:56:31,760
with uh with everything uh when you're

2869
01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:32,800
talking about

2870
01:56:35,990 --> 01:56:35,679
you know pilots uh going on the record

2871
01:56:40,390 --> 01:56:36,000
uh

2872
01:56:43,830 --> 01:56:40,400
public

2873
01:56:47,430 --> 01:56:43,840
it seems that fravor

2874
01:56:48,070 --> 01:56:47,440
got a gotta go pass right he got a hall

2875
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:48,080
pass

2876
01:56:53,109 --> 01:56:51,119
to talk about this he did and maybe it's

2877
01:56:55,189 --> 01:56:53,119
just because

2878
01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:55,199
you know the ufo task force or

2879
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:56,560
whomever's in charge

2880
01:57:02,070 --> 01:56:59,599
of you know the aliens um

2881
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:02,080
was just like you know what let's just

2882
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:04,480
see what happens

2883
01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:06,960
let's see how people react to it and are

2884
01:57:12,149 --> 01:57:08,400
the people ready for it

2885
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:12,159
right because uh tucker carlson

2886
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:14,159
uh and i've got to give him a lot of

2887
01:57:19,510 --> 01:57:15,599
credit for this

2888
01:57:20,070 --> 01:57:19,520
um took it upon himself to speak about

2889
01:57:22,709 --> 01:57:20,080
this

2890
01:57:23,350 --> 01:57:22,719
on the biggest you know nightly news

2891
01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:23,360
show

2892
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:26,320
in the world right yeah and to take it

2893
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:26,880
on there

2894
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:30,159
and knowing that he's going to face

2895
01:57:35,030 --> 01:57:33,760
from uh from his peers that ufo ridicule

2896
01:57:37,109 --> 01:57:35,040
you know you don't that's the one thing

2897
01:57:37,589 --> 01:57:37,119
you don't talk about right you don't do

2898
01:57:45,189 --> 01:57:37,599
that

2899
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:45,199
expected

2900
01:57:48,709 --> 01:57:48,080
well what was so when did tucker carlson

2901
01:57:51,189 --> 01:57:48,719
do this

2902
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:51,199
uh two years here yeah three three years

2903
01:57:55,589 --> 01:57:52,080
ago when the new york

2904
01:57:58,709 --> 01:57:55,599
times uh broke the story uh he decided

2905
01:58:05,669 --> 01:57:58,719
at that point to run with it oh okay

2906
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:09,350
for now um

2907
01:58:13,270 --> 01:58:12,239
why i like look listen like we we all

2908
01:58:16,709 --> 01:58:13,280
kind of know

2909
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:16,719
like i'm glad he ran with it and but i

2910
01:58:22,229 --> 01:58:18,239
know there are so many

2911
01:58:26,310 --> 01:58:22,239
people who just believe that anything

2912
01:58:29,270 --> 01:58:26,320
that comes from fox news is bs

2913
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:29,280
or any mainstream or any mainstream but

2914
01:58:32,709 --> 01:58:31,040
i know that there is a large group of

2915
01:58:34,229 --> 01:58:32,719
people who are just like nah turn off

2916
01:58:36,629 --> 01:58:34,239
fox news you know what i mean right like

2917
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:36,639
i mean i've been hearing that my entire

2918
01:58:42,709 --> 01:58:40,320
life you know um and seeing posters

2919
01:58:44,310 --> 01:58:42,719
around burbank you know there's a sign

2920
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:44,320
when you're on magnolia that says like

2921
01:58:49,990 --> 01:58:47,679
turn off fox news yes

2922
01:58:51,830 --> 01:58:50,000
when i was uh when i was going to school

2923
01:58:54,870 --> 01:58:51,840
i got about 60 seconds

2924
01:58:58,629 --> 01:58:54,880
uh for broadcasting and uh

2925
01:59:02,709 --> 01:58:58,639
one of our uh instructors was from cnn

2926
01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:02,719
and uh so i said to him i said hey

2927
01:59:08,229 --> 01:59:05,760
you got a story a ufo story

2928
01:59:09,430 --> 01:59:08,239
this is like 10 15 years ago i said you

2929
01:59:11,910 --> 01:59:09,440
got a ufo story

2930
01:59:13,189 --> 01:59:11,920
and you take it to your news director he

2931
01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:13,199
goes no i wouldn't

2932
01:59:17,589 --> 01:59:15,040
i said yeah but you got this ufo sir he

2933
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:17,599
goes no man no ufos

2934
01:59:22,149 --> 01:59:20,080
no ufos you just don't do it if you want

2935
01:59:25,990 --> 01:59:22,159
to have a career in journalism

2936
01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:26,000
and i was just blown away by that and he

2937
01:59:33,830 --> 01:59:30,239
shut me down and i kept

2938
01:59:37,189 --> 01:59:33,840
out of it so well yeah yeah um

2939
01:59:41,109 --> 01:59:37,199
there uh there is uh

2940
01:59:43,790 --> 01:59:41,119
there is this uh unspoken

2941
01:59:44,950 --> 01:59:43,800
rule and i've heard all of the top

2942
01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:44,960
broadcasters

2943
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:47,760
uh speak about this if you want to kill

2944
01:59:53,030 --> 01:59:49,280
your career

2945
01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:53,040
in radio or television talk about ufos

2946
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:55,920
you know and it's it's i'm not the only

2947
01:59:59,189 --> 01:59:56,560
one that

2948
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:59,199
has said this right it's just out there

2949
02:00:08,310 --> 01:59:59,679
and

2950
02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:08,320
not since larry king has there been

2951
02:00:12,790 --> 02:00:09,440
somebody in mainstream

2952
02:00:16,310 --> 02:00:12,800
there's myself right out there on coast

2953
02:00:19,510 --> 02:00:16,320
the uh there's a george nori

2954
02:00:21,910 --> 02:00:19,520
and that's it right it's it's

2955
02:00:24,310 --> 02:00:21,920
it and and i don't care anymore you know

2956
02:00:24,950 --> 02:00:24,320
and i let that go a long time ago kyle i

2957
02:00:28,229 --> 02:00:24,960
just

2958
02:00:31,109 --> 02:00:28,239
i i let it go and i decided that the

2959
02:00:33,510 --> 02:00:31,119
the ufo community needed to have

2960
02:00:35,589 --> 02:00:33,520
somebody out there in the mainstream

2961
02:00:37,430 --> 02:00:35,599
that would absolutely speak about these

2962
02:00:40,470 --> 02:00:37,440
things you know i've seen

2963
02:00:42,149 --> 02:00:40,480
stuff i've seen stuff and i know how

2964
02:00:44,950 --> 02:00:42,159
crazy it makes me sound

2965
02:00:46,070 --> 02:00:44,960
but that's it and i just i decided a

2966
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:46,080
long time ago

2967
02:00:49,350 --> 02:00:47,679
to do that now when we come back we're

2968
02:00:50,790 --> 02:00:49,360
going to take our break right here

2969
02:00:53,109 --> 02:00:50,800
and when we come back we're going to

2970
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:53,119
talk about bigfoot got to do it

2971
02:00:56,550 --> 02:00:55,520
and you and i are on the same page but i

2972
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,560
want to push this

2973
02:01:00,470 --> 02:00:58,880
just a little bit our guest tonight kyle

2974
02:01:01,750 --> 02:01:00,480
coghill of bad wolves

2975
02:01:09,430 --> 02:01:01,760
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2976
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3091
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our guest tonight uh kyle conkel

3126
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:48,560
and and kyle i want to talk about

3127
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:50,320
bigfoot for a second

3128
02:07:58,310 --> 02:07:55,040
um what do you think

3129
02:08:00,870 --> 02:07:58,320
now when i was growing up i was like

3130
02:08:02,950 --> 02:08:00,880
oh yeah i mean you know i grew up

3131
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:02,960
watching like harry and the hendersons

3132
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:03,679
and you know

3133
02:08:10,550 --> 02:08:07,280
the you know the the legendary bigfoot

3134
02:08:13,109 --> 02:08:10,560
footage that was you know shown um

3135
02:08:13,830 --> 02:08:13,119
and my stepdad was really into it and he

3136
02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:13,840
was like

3137
02:08:16,870 --> 02:08:16,400
yo there's bigfoot out there but as i've

3138
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:16,880
gotten

3139
02:08:21,109 --> 02:08:19,840
older i really don't think that there is

3140
02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:21,119
something

3141
02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:24,239
living in the pacific northwest or

3142
02:08:27,910 --> 02:08:26,880
british columbia that i mean maybe

3143
02:08:30,229 --> 02:08:27,920
canada

3144
02:08:31,430 --> 02:08:30,239
maybe because i mean there's only like a

3145
02:08:34,069 --> 02:08:31,440
hundred miles

3146
02:08:34,470 --> 02:08:34,079
from the american border up in canada

3147
02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:34,480
that's

3148
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:36,800
inhabitable so it would make sense if it

3149
02:08:42,229 --> 02:08:38,719
was up in the yukon

3150
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:42,239
and stuff like that but in america

3151
02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:45,760
it doesn't seem plausible that there is

3152
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:49,280
an entirely new well i guess not new

3153
02:08:55,830 --> 02:08:53,119
but an entirely different species of

3154
02:08:57,750 --> 02:08:55,840
of creature like lurking out in the

3155
02:09:00,229 --> 02:08:57,760
woods especially with how large it is

3156
02:09:00,790 --> 02:09:00,239
you know what i mean but but but why go

3157
02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:00,800
there

3158
02:09:09,830 --> 02:09:07,360
but why you i mean i just

3159
02:09:11,109 --> 02:09:09,840
i really feel like in the amer in

3160
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:11,119
america

3161
02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:14,079
there is i'm first of all i just don't

3162
02:09:16,950 --> 02:09:15,840
think something that big can be that

3163
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:16,960
fast

3164
02:09:21,430 --> 02:09:19,040
like they're basically putting like the

3165
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:21,440
abilities of like the incredible hulk

3166
02:09:26,310 --> 02:09:24,719
on on on bigfoot where he can just

3167
02:09:29,350 --> 02:09:26,320
disappear

3168
02:09:31,669 --> 02:09:29,360
like i don't think something that big is

3169
02:09:34,629 --> 02:09:31,679
that agile first of all

3170
02:09:35,589 --> 02:09:34,639
and there would there be you know fecal

3171
02:09:37,350 --> 02:09:35,599
matter

3172
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:37,360
left behind there would be you would

3173
02:09:41,510 --> 02:09:40,320
still be seeing large footprints

3174
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:41,520
you know i mean there's only i mean

3175
02:09:44,709 --> 02:09:42,639
there's been a decent amount of

3176
02:09:47,830 --> 02:09:44,719
footprints but it could have been uh

3177
02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:47,840
what's that thing called from they lived

3178
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:50,960
uh it's the big monkey man i forget what

3179
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:51,840
it's called

3180
02:09:55,830 --> 02:09:54,880
yeti yeti no it's it was like an actual

3181
02:09:59,030 --> 02:09:55,840
thing that lived

3182
02:10:01,750 --> 02:09:59,040
like a hundred thousand years ago

3183
02:10:02,470 --> 02:10:01,760
it was like uh uh something apithicus i

3184
02:10:05,990 --> 02:10:02,480
can't remember

3185
02:10:08,709 --> 02:10:06,000
okay um but it was a large

3186
02:10:09,990 --> 02:10:08,719
neanderthal you just said it gorilla

3187
02:10:13,430 --> 02:10:10,000
gorilla type

3188
02:10:16,310 --> 02:10:13,440
like 10 feet tall 20 feet tall

3189
02:10:17,830 --> 02:10:16,320
right the austropicus or whatever

3190
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:17,840
whatever it's called

3191
02:10:24,390 --> 02:10:21,040
anyways i just don't think in modern day

3192
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:24,400
america anything like that would be able

3193
02:10:27,109 --> 02:10:26,800
to hide i mean i know plenty of guys who

3194
02:10:30,149 --> 02:10:27,119
go

3195
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:30,159
out and hunt and

3196
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:33,040
explore all these woods you know there's

3197
02:10:36,629 --> 02:10:34,639
guys like adam greenfield who go out

3198
02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:36,639
there for months at a time

3199
02:10:40,950 --> 02:10:38,079
and they've never seen anything like

3200
02:10:44,709 --> 02:10:40,960
that now it would make more sense to me

3201
02:10:47,669 --> 02:10:44,719
if like i said it was in northern canada

3202
02:10:48,629 --> 02:10:47,679
where it's super uninhabitable you can't

3203
02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:48,639
live there

3204
02:10:54,830 --> 02:10:51,679
that i think would make more sense

3205
02:10:56,229 --> 02:10:54,840
now you've been on tour yeah you've

3206
02:10:57,750 --> 02:10:56,239
driven uh

3207
02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:57,760
and i know what it's like to be on tour

3208
02:11:01,589 --> 02:10:59,760
on a tour bus and you're just driving

3209
02:11:03,109 --> 02:11:01,599
for hours and hours and hours and you're

3210
02:11:06,229 --> 02:11:03,119
looking out the window

3211
02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:06,239
i just uh a few months ago i

3212
02:11:13,350 --> 02:11:09,599
i drove in my jeep i went

3213
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:13,360
from uh los angeles to the canadian

3214
02:11:18,629 --> 02:11:14,880
border and back

3215
02:11:22,310 --> 02:11:18,639
and driving on these

3216
02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:22,320
free these highways uh through

3217
02:11:25,589 --> 02:11:24,960
the redwoods and through these mountains

3218
02:11:29,669 --> 02:11:25,599
looking

3219
02:11:33,109 --> 02:11:29,679
at miles and miles and miles and miles

3220
02:11:35,830 --> 02:11:33,119
of a forest you know covered in these

3221
02:11:37,750 --> 02:11:35,840
uh redwoods you're looking out and i i

3222
02:11:41,589 --> 02:11:37,760
can't help but think to myself

3223
02:11:45,109 --> 02:11:41,599
no human has ever been in there

3224
02:11:48,069 --> 02:11:45,119
it's it's right there's no way

3225
02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:48,079
that anybody's ever walked through that

3226
02:11:51,589 --> 02:11:49,040
ever

3227
02:11:53,830 --> 02:11:51,599
um with all the population of l.a and

3228
02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:53,840
new york and you think of these concrete

3229
02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:55,840
jungles that we live in here

3230
02:11:59,270 --> 02:11:58,000
but when you get up into northern

3231
02:12:02,149 --> 02:11:59,280
california through

3232
02:12:03,189 --> 02:12:02,159
oregon and up into washington you're

3233
02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:03,199
driving

3234
02:12:07,189 --> 02:12:05,760
through these areas where anything could

3235
02:12:09,589 --> 02:12:07,199
be living in there

3236
02:12:11,189 --> 02:12:09,599
i mean yeah i mean i i've driven through

3237
02:12:13,109 --> 02:12:11,199
the siskiyous

3238
02:12:14,629 --> 02:12:13,119
and you know which is just north of

3239
02:12:16,870 --> 02:12:14,639
redding california

3240
02:12:17,669 --> 02:12:16,880
and you know you go up and you go down

3241
02:12:21,030 --> 02:12:17,679
and

3242
02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:21,040
it's literally just forest for

3243
02:12:24,470 --> 02:12:22,960
ever as far as the eye can be right

3244
02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:24,480
right

3245
02:12:28,149 --> 02:12:27,280
but i mean there's locals to that area

3246
02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:28,159
and i'm sure

3247
02:12:33,270 --> 02:12:30,480
there's a lot of hunters up there you

3248
02:12:34,709 --> 02:12:33,280
know i know that they have a big

3249
02:12:36,069 --> 02:12:34,719
they have a big archery tournament in

3250
02:12:37,430 --> 02:12:36,079
red in california every year we got to

3251
02:12:40,149 --> 02:12:37,440
shoot the bigfoot

3252
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:40,159
uh which is a big tall like foam bigfoot

3253
02:12:44,310 --> 02:12:41,119
that they have there

3254
02:12:47,430 --> 02:12:44,320
right but i mean

3255
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:47,440
i don't know i i feel like

3256
02:12:52,790 --> 02:12:51,119
if there were big big feet

3257
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:52,800
would that be the way to that's the way

3258
02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:54,320
to say it

3259
02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:55,760
if there were big feet they have

3260
02:12:59,990 --> 02:12:57,679
definitely migrated north

3261
02:13:00,870 --> 02:13:00,000
to where that they know that there is no

3262
02:13:04,790 --> 02:13:00,880
human

3263
02:13:07,270 --> 02:13:04,800
population i um

3264
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:07,280
i'm on the fence and and i'm on the

3265
02:13:09,830 --> 02:13:08,000
fence for

3266
02:13:11,430 --> 02:13:09,840
a lot of different reasons one we

3267
02:13:12,550 --> 02:13:11,440
haven't found a corpse

3268
02:13:14,149 --> 02:13:12,560
right yeah you would yeah that's the

3269
02:13:14,790 --> 02:13:14,159
other one yeah you'd think somebody

3270
02:13:18,149 --> 02:13:14,800
would have

3271
02:13:19,109 --> 02:13:18,159
hit one with a car right we hit deer all

3272
02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:19,119
day long

3273
02:13:23,109 --> 02:13:21,840
millions of deer every right it's a

3274
02:13:26,390 --> 02:13:23,119
tragedy they need

3275
02:13:30,149 --> 02:13:26,400
yeah they need our donations uh now but

3276
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:30,159
there's there's that part of it and then

3277
02:13:36,790 --> 02:13:33,440
i saw this is about three years ago and

3278
02:13:38,550 --> 02:13:36,800
uh i was with uh i was with a couple

3279
02:13:41,270 --> 02:13:38,560
hundred people actually

3280
02:13:42,470 --> 02:13:41,280
and we're having a conference um up in

3281
02:13:45,270 --> 02:13:42,480
washington

3282
02:13:47,669 --> 02:13:45,280
and i see for the first time i see my

3283
02:13:50,550 --> 02:13:47,679
first set of bigfoot prints

3284
02:13:51,510 --> 02:13:50,560
and that were discovered by these kids

3285
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:51,520
that were there

3286
02:13:55,990 --> 02:13:53,920
and uh they pulled me over jimmy you

3287
02:13:57,109 --> 02:13:56,000
want to see a big footprint i'm like oh

3288
02:14:00,310 --> 02:13:57,119
come on man

3289
02:14:01,589 --> 02:14:00,320
i'm busy right go do something and

3290
02:14:03,270 --> 02:14:01,599
they're like no it's

3291
02:14:04,709 --> 02:14:03,280
how far do i have to walk it's right

3292
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:04,719
over here really

3293
02:14:09,350 --> 02:14:07,520
and i see uh you know the three kids

3294
02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:09,360
standing over there waving at me so i

3295
02:14:14,390 --> 02:14:11,360
walk over and i look down

3296
02:14:17,990 --> 02:14:14,400
kyle this big yeah

3297
02:14:21,030 --> 02:14:18,000
right this deep in the ground toes

3298
02:14:23,750 --> 02:14:21,040
i'm looking like what the heck

3299
02:14:25,350 --> 02:14:23,760
and so we bring over a camera crew and

3300
02:14:27,109 --> 02:14:25,360
we document everything we ended up

3301
02:14:30,629 --> 02:14:27,119
finding four

3302
02:14:33,669 --> 02:14:30,639
uh one of them no actually two two were

3303
02:14:36,149 --> 02:14:33,679
perfectly crisp in this hard packed

3304
02:14:37,270 --> 02:14:36,159
ground by the way i'm 200 pounds i'm not

3305
02:14:40,470 --> 02:14:37,280
making a dent

3306
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:40,480
in this dirt and and these these prints

3307
02:14:44,470 --> 02:14:41,199
were about

3308
02:14:46,790 --> 02:14:44,480
uh two two and a half three inches deep

3309
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:46,800
now i stepped back and i thought okay

3310
02:14:50,470 --> 02:14:48,480
either this was hoaxed

3311
02:14:52,629 --> 02:14:50,480
right somebody did this for us to

3312
02:14:57,270 --> 02:14:52,639
discover or they're real

3313
02:14:59,030 --> 02:14:57,280
um but i was perplexed now

3314
02:15:00,870 --> 02:14:59,040
go ahead oh sorry oh no i was just going

3315
02:15:03,750 --> 02:15:00,880
to ask like in the prince

3316
02:15:04,470 --> 02:15:03,760
did you see something that like looked

3317
02:15:07,589 --> 02:15:04,480
like a

3318
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:07,599
kind of like fingerprint uh no the the

3319
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:08,320
the print

3320
02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:11,840
was in the grass so

3321
02:15:15,750 --> 02:15:14,880
embedded in the footprint was the the

3322
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:15,760
grass

3323
02:15:22,709 --> 02:15:19,360
we're in a field yeah and uh so

3324
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:22,719
no there was nothing fingerprint no no

3325
02:15:25,510 --> 02:15:23,199
because

3326
02:15:27,109 --> 02:15:25,520
it was it was the grass that was mashed

3327
02:15:29,669 --> 02:15:27,119
down into these

3328
02:15:30,310 --> 02:15:29,679
um but did it convince me that bigfoot

3329
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:30,320
is real

3330
02:15:34,629 --> 02:15:33,040
no but i i gotta tell you the hair stood

3331
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,639
up in the back of my neck when i saw i

3332
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:36,400
mean i couldn't believe

3333
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:39,520
yeah and and these prints were about six

3334
02:15:44,470 --> 02:15:40,880
feet apart

3335
02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:44,480
right i tried to step and i couldn't

3336
02:15:47,589 --> 02:15:46,639
you know my gate is whatever three and a

3337
02:15:49,990 --> 02:15:47,599
half feet

3338
02:15:50,709 --> 02:15:50,000
but whatever this was was big and it

3339
02:15:53,510 --> 02:15:50,719
arched

3340
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:53,520
to the left now again is it like you're

3341
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:54,800
saying is that enough

3342
02:15:59,669 --> 02:15:57,840
ah no it's not you know

3343
02:16:01,430 --> 02:15:59,679
i would have loved to have seen what

3344
02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:01,440
made those prints

3345
02:16:04,629 --> 02:16:03,760
yeah you know but like you know like you

3346
02:16:07,669 --> 02:16:04,639
said like

3347
02:16:09,510 --> 02:16:07,679
they're never being they never found a

3348
02:16:12,550 --> 02:16:09,520
corpse

3349
02:16:13,910 --> 02:16:12,560
and like when prince

3350
02:16:15,350 --> 02:16:13,920
like you know like gorillas like they

3351
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:15,360
have fingerprints like we do on their

3352
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:16,960
feet you know like we all have like toe

3353
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:18,000
prints and fingerprints

3354
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:20,400
and stuff like that like when i see

3355
02:16:27,109 --> 02:16:21,679
prints

3356
02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:27,119
if it's in like mud or something

3357
02:16:31,109 --> 02:16:30,400
and of course it was in grass so any

3358
02:16:33,110 --> 02:16:31,119
type of

3359
02:16:34,469 --> 02:16:33,120
fingerprint would be obstructed like

3360
02:16:37,110 --> 02:16:34,479
that's where i kind of like

3361
02:16:38,950 --> 02:16:37,120
uh i'm not really sure because it

3362
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:38,960
doesn't matter how much you weigh

3363
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:41,679
you could easily make something and sled

3364
02:16:44,309 --> 02:16:42,240
have two

3365
02:16:45,589 --> 02:16:44,319
do big dudes sledgehammer that thing

3366
02:16:48,549 --> 02:16:45,599
into the ground

3367
02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:48,559
to make those prints yes you know what i

3368
02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:48,960
mean

3369
02:16:52,150 --> 02:16:50,800
yeah and it would have to have been done

3370
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:52,160
in the mud

3371
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:55,519
uh the ground was too too hard packed

3372
02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:57,439
at that point unless this thing was you

3373
02:17:02,950 --> 02:16:58,800
know 15 tons

3374
02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:02,960
yeah but but what about

3375
02:17:10,629 --> 02:17:06,800
the inter-dimensional aspect of it

3376
02:17:12,709 --> 02:17:10,639
where maybe bigfoot is just visiting

3377
02:17:13,990 --> 02:17:12,719
right and and coming from another

3378
02:17:17,349 --> 02:17:14,000
parallel world or another

3379
02:17:20,389 --> 02:17:17,359
dimension maybe it's a ufo you know but

3380
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:20,399
and that's why we haven't found a corpse

3381
02:17:24,389 --> 02:17:22,960
yeah because there's an interdimensional

3382
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:24,399
aspect to bigfoot

3383
02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:27,760
and i'm i'm more okay with that than i

3384
02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:28,080
am

3385
02:17:31,270 --> 02:17:30,240
like you're saying as some species that

3386
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:31,280
is just uh

3387
02:17:38,389 --> 02:17:35,280
you know hiding from us yeah i mean

3388
02:17:39,990 --> 02:17:38,399
even that i think for me is is a stretch

3389
02:17:42,070 --> 02:17:40,000
like when it comes to

3390
02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:42,080
like i believe that there are parallel

3391
02:17:45,190 --> 02:17:43,200
universes

3392
02:17:47,990 --> 02:17:45,200
but i really don't think that there is a

3393
02:17:51,990 --> 02:17:48,000
way to tread between them

3394
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:52,000
you know like maybe you know deja vu is

3395
02:17:54,870 --> 02:17:52,719
kind of like

3396
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:54,880
our glimpse into the parallel universe

3397
02:17:58,709 --> 02:17:56,160
or

3398
02:18:00,309 --> 02:17:58,719
i mean i just think it would literally

3399
02:18:02,389 --> 02:18:00,319
mess up

3400
02:18:04,629 --> 02:18:02,399
times the time space continuum if you

3401
02:18:06,230 --> 02:18:04,639
had like you know

3402
02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:06,240
the jimmy church from this parallel

3403
02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:08,319
universe crossing into our parallel

3404
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:09,439
universe

3405
02:18:12,549 --> 02:18:10,639
you know you can't handle two of the

3406
02:18:14,469 --> 02:18:12,559
same beings that are occupying the same

3407
02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:14,479
space at the same time

3408
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:18,800
um like uh god what was that movie

3409
02:18:23,429 --> 02:18:20,639
when they were in space and they

3410
02:18:26,150 --> 02:18:23,439
traveled oh the cloverfield paradox

3411
02:18:26,469 --> 02:18:26,160
oh yeah that's great movie actually yeah

3412
02:18:31,030 --> 02:18:26,479
they

3413
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:31,040
were going to

3414
02:18:35,750 --> 02:18:34,000
you know power up their device and it

3415
02:18:37,030 --> 02:18:35,760
shot them through to it by parallel

3416
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:37,040
universe where everything was different

3417
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:38,080
and then people started

3418
02:18:45,030 --> 02:18:41,519
like melting into the ship right

3419
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:45,040
um i don't know like i really think that

3420
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:48,240
you know maybe because you know bigfoot

3421
02:18:51,270 --> 02:18:50,880
doesn't exist in our plane that if they

3422
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:51,280
were

3423
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:55,439
able to um

3424
02:18:59,429 --> 02:18:58,399
travel between parallel universes or

3425
02:19:01,270 --> 02:18:59,439
what have you

3426
02:19:02,469 --> 02:19:01,280
that it would make that would make more

3427
02:19:05,509 --> 02:19:02,479
sense but

3428
02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:05,519
like you said not getting corpses

3429
02:19:08,549 --> 02:19:06,719
you know there was that whole thing with

3430
02:19:10,389 --> 02:19:08,559
the with the original bigfoot footage

3431
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:10,399
from the 60s that like

3432
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,319
you know people said oh you know it's so

3433
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:14,160
grainy oh but i saw the zipper and then

3434
02:19:17,349 --> 02:19:15,519
there was the guy who's like no that was

3435
02:19:19,669 --> 02:19:17,359
me in the suit

3436
02:19:20,790 --> 02:19:19,679
um i don't know i would definitely have

3437
02:19:25,669 --> 02:19:20,800
to

3438
02:19:27,589 --> 02:19:25,679
something

3439
02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:27,599
that was just a little bit more rock

3440
02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:29,280
solid i mean don't get me wrong i'm sure

3441
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,240
i would have been

3442
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:32,559
just as in awe as you were when you saw

3443
02:19:35,270 --> 02:19:34,000
those those prints in the ground i

3444
02:19:36,629 --> 02:19:35,280
probably i probably would have

3445
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:36,639
i probably would have would have pooed

3446
02:19:44,469 --> 02:19:39,439
my my pants i almost lost my mind

3447
02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:44,479
uh yeah i i i i was i was confused

3448
02:19:49,910 --> 02:19:47,519
um and the and the reason uh

3449
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:49,920
for that is because i'm trying to i'm

3450
02:19:53,190 --> 02:19:50,560
trying to think

3451
02:19:55,670 --> 02:19:53,200
logically here and as i'm looking at

3452
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:55,680
this footprint and i'm standing there

3453
02:20:01,910 --> 02:19:59,120
and i'm not denting the dirt

3454
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:01,920
and these look fresh to me yeah right i

3455
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:04,720
mean this was grass that was mashed down

3456
02:20:11,429 --> 02:20:08,319
and if i'm not denting the dirt

3457
02:20:13,110 --> 02:20:11,439
then somebody couldn't have made

3458
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:13,120
it wasn't somebody running around with

3459
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:15,439
bigfoot uh shoes on

3460
02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:18,800
right the gate was too far apart

3461
02:20:22,469 --> 02:20:21,120
so and i'm just trying to rationalize

3462
02:20:23,590 --> 02:20:22,479
and trying to figure all of this out i'm

3463
02:20:26,790 --> 02:20:23,600
trying to

3464
02:20:27,670 --> 02:20:26,800
debunk it but the thing that was messing

3465
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:27,680
with my head

3466
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:31,120
was i was standing right there and i was

3467
02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:35,040
not denting anything i wasn't going into

3468
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:36,720
the dirt this much

3469
02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:40,160
yeah an eighth of an inch let alone

3470
02:20:43,190 --> 02:20:42,240
this print as i'm sticking my finger

3471
02:20:46,630 --> 02:20:43,200
down

3472
02:20:48,550 --> 02:20:46,640
in it on on video uh and it's going

3473
02:20:50,790 --> 02:20:48,560
my whole finger is going to the bottom

3474
02:20:52,550 --> 02:20:50,800
of the footprint what made this

3475
02:20:54,630 --> 02:20:52,560
yeah yeah the only and like i said the

3476
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:54,640
only thing i can really think of is

3477
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:56,960
you know i know it rains a lot in

3478
02:21:01,830 --> 02:20:58,720
washington state

3479
02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:01,840
you know and maybe

3480
02:21:05,190 --> 02:21:03,439
it could have been used with some sort

3481
02:21:07,030 --> 02:21:05,200
of mold

3482
02:21:09,270 --> 02:21:07,040
you know i don't i don't know i'm with

3483
02:21:12,630 --> 02:21:09,280
you on all of this

3484
02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:12,640
uh it uh it was pretty amazing uh for me

3485
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:13,439
to see

3486
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:16,080
um now uh let me look at the clock we've

3487
02:21:18,950 --> 02:21:17,359
only got a few minutes left you want to

3488
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:18,960
do some overtime

3489
02:21:22,950 --> 02:21:21,359
do you have anything you have anything

3490
02:21:25,030 --> 02:21:22,960
got nothing going on tomorrow you don't

3491
02:21:27,510 --> 02:21:25,040
have to get up early uh

3492
02:21:28,870 --> 02:21:27,520
for band practice or anything nah i'm

3493
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:28,880
i'm doing a twitch stream tomorrow but

3494
02:21:30,710 --> 02:21:30,160
that's not until the afternoon yeah

3495
02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:30,720
right on

3496
02:21:41,590 --> 02:21:37,680
um this is another aspect of

3497
02:21:44,389 --> 02:21:41,600
uh i study physics a lot and

3498
02:21:45,910 --> 02:21:44,399
uh the references to the possibility of

3499
02:21:49,190 --> 02:21:45,920
time travel

3500
02:21:51,190 --> 02:21:49,200
uh being real or not is is pretty

3501
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:51,200
fascinating to me is this something that

3502
02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:54,960
you've looked into a little bit and

3503
02:21:59,510 --> 02:21:57,840
it's like i really feel i'm i'm one of

3504
02:22:02,630 --> 02:21:59,520
those people that if

3505
02:22:03,349 --> 02:22:02,640
time travel is possible i don't think it

3506
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:03,359
would work

3507
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:05,359
the way that it does in the movies you

3508
02:22:09,910 --> 02:22:06,640
know what i mean

3509
02:22:12,389 --> 02:22:09,920
because sharing the same space

3510
02:22:13,270 --> 02:22:12,399
occupying the same space as your past

3511
02:22:15,830 --> 02:22:13,280
self

3512
02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:15,840
i think it like might work in the way of

3513
02:22:21,429 --> 02:22:17,760
consciousness

3514
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:21,439
i'm not sure but how could you

3515
02:22:24,469 --> 02:22:22,800
and again there might be someone who can

3516
02:22:28,389 --> 02:22:24,479
actually answer this like how could i

3517
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:28,399
occupy the same space as myself

3518
02:22:32,309 --> 02:22:29,920
stand there and look at yourself

3519
02:22:34,230 --> 02:22:32,319
physically yeah yeah i mean

3520
02:22:35,429 --> 02:22:34,240
that to me is just like the world's

3521
02:22:38,790 --> 02:22:35,439
gonna implode or

3522
02:22:43,030 --> 02:22:38,800
something you know so maybe you're going

3523
02:22:46,309 --> 02:22:43,040
back in time via your consciousness

3524
02:22:49,429 --> 02:22:46,319
makes more sense to observe yeah

3525
02:22:51,750 --> 02:22:49,439
not to interact yeah or

3526
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:51,760
maybe i mean i i really don't know

3527
02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:52,800
because there's a whole bunch of

3528
02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:53,359
different

3529
02:22:57,349 --> 02:22:55,520
you know ways that it's been portrayed

3530
02:22:59,830 --> 02:22:57,359
through popular

3531
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:59,840
you know pop culture and media over the

3532
02:23:03,670 --> 02:23:00,640
last

3533
02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:03,680
what 40 50 years right h.g

3534
02:23:11,110 --> 02:23:07,680
wells the time being right yeah

3535
02:23:12,309 --> 02:23:11,120
so i mean but i but then again i could

3536
02:23:15,510 --> 02:23:12,319
be completely wrong

3537
02:23:17,510 --> 02:23:15,520
because maybe we haven't seen any

3538
02:23:18,950 --> 02:23:17,520
time travelers yet because i mean no one

3539
02:23:22,630 --> 02:23:18,960
wants to come to 2020

3540
02:23:27,349 --> 02:23:22,640
but uh like maybe it just opens up

3541
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:27,359
to another plane of existence

3542
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:30,479
so it's like we're living this

3543
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:33,680
this straight line someone

3544
02:23:40,870 --> 02:23:37,200
in our future in our future timeline

3545
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:40,880
invents time travel goes back to their

3546
02:23:44,469 --> 02:23:41,520
past

3547
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:44,479
that they know but then that creates a

3548
02:23:49,429 --> 02:23:47,040
separate timeline with a separate future

3549
02:23:50,710 --> 02:23:49,439
so that future that you go like when you

3550
02:23:55,349 --> 02:23:50,720
go back

3551
02:23:57,510 --> 02:23:55,359
you return

3552
02:23:59,349 --> 02:23:57,520
isn't on the same timeline as your

3553
02:24:02,230 --> 02:23:59,359
original

3554
02:24:03,110 --> 02:24:02,240
jumping point right does that make any

3555
02:24:05,190 --> 02:24:03,120
sense no it does

3556
02:24:06,309 --> 02:24:05,200
a hundred percent and then each time

3557
02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:06,319
that you do that i've

3558
02:24:11,110 --> 02:24:08,560
it's just gonna branch out into

3559
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:11,120
different lines here and there

3560
02:24:16,070 --> 02:24:14,000
how would you and i've always find that

3561
02:24:19,510 --> 02:24:16,080
uh found that so fascinating

3562
02:24:22,550 --> 02:24:19,520
how would you if you did that get

3563
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:22,560
back to where you were originally

3564
02:24:26,230 --> 02:24:24,720
i don't think you could right i i think

3565
02:24:30,550 --> 02:24:26,240
if you're if you're

3566
02:24:32,309 --> 02:24:30,560
if you're messing with

3567
02:24:33,830 --> 02:24:32,319
but then but then again then i'm then

3568
02:24:35,990 --> 02:24:33,840
i'm contradicting myself

3569
02:24:37,830 --> 02:24:36,000
because if i'm going back in time from

3570
02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:37,840
say like right now and i go back in time

3571
02:24:45,910 --> 02:24:43,349
and i'm

3572
02:24:47,590 --> 02:24:45,920
and i create another timeline the

3573
02:24:50,389 --> 02:24:47,600
original timeline that i left from

3574
02:24:51,030 --> 02:24:50,399
is now sans kyle that's right you're not

3575
02:24:54,230 --> 02:24:51,040
so they're

3576
02:24:56,710 --> 02:24:54,240
right yeah i'm not there so

3577
02:24:57,910 --> 02:24:56,720
would you just cease to exist in that in

3578
02:25:01,190 --> 02:24:57,920
that

3579
02:25:05,429 --> 02:25:01,200
like where

3580
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:05,439
where's kyle right you're just like gone

3581
02:25:09,429 --> 02:25:08,000
yeah so i mean i mean i don't know i'm

3582
02:25:11,110 --> 02:25:09,439
there i guess there would have to be

3583
02:25:13,750 --> 02:25:11,120
some sort of way to be

3584
02:25:14,309 --> 02:25:13,760
to be cohesive to where you can i time

3585
02:25:17,830 --> 02:25:14,319
traveled

3586
02:25:20,150 --> 02:25:17,840
i left at 9 22 p.m i got to come back at

3587
02:25:23,270 --> 02:25:20,160
9 22 p.m so maybe there's

3588
02:25:26,630 --> 02:25:23,280
maybe there could be certain um

3589
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:26,640
like you know rules uh and i would make

3590
02:25:30,950 --> 02:25:28,160
sense like you need to come back the

3591
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:30,960
exact same time that you left

3592
02:25:34,150 --> 02:25:33,760
or else a wormhole happens which is fine

3593
02:25:35,349 --> 02:25:34,160
if

3594
02:25:37,510 --> 02:25:35,359
you're time traveling and you have the

3595
02:25:39,990 --> 02:25:37,520
ability to go back

3596
02:25:42,070 --> 02:25:40,000
and and do that you should be able to

3597
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:42,080
pick the time that you come back or it's

3598
02:25:45,110 --> 02:25:42,800
just like

3599
02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:45,120
oh hey i can i can time travel to a

3600
02:25:49,830 --> 02:25:46,640
specific day but not at this

3601
02:25:53,990 --> 02:25:49,840
at a specific time so if you're like

3602
02:26:01,110 --> 02:25:57,190
december 2nd uh 2010

3603
02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:01,120
i gotta go i gotta leave at 9 22 pm

3604
02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:03,760
or the timeline's messed up or the times

3605
02:26:08,550 --> 02:26:04,160
and

3606
02:26:10,950 --> 02:26:08,560
not only is it messed up but the

3607
02:26:12,389 --> 02:26:10,960
the universe and this is something that

3608
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:12,399
can't be messed with

3609
02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:15,840
the universe has a certain

3610
02:26:23,429 --> 02:26:19,520
amount of particles and atoms and gases

3611
02:26:26,150 --> 02:26:23,439
and things right it's set in stone

3612
02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:26,160
there is no increase or decrease nothing

3613
02:26:30,790 --> 02:26:27,520
is created new

3614
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:30,800
right it's only made with previous star

3615
02:26:38,469 --> 02:26:31,920
dust

3616
02:26:39,429 --> 02:26:38,479
right you are not made of new stuff

3617
02:26:43,510 --> 02:26:39,439
right you are

3618
02:26:46,710 --> 02:26:43,520
old stuff uh i'm breathing the air

3619
02:26:47,429 --> 02:26:46,720
that the dinosaurs breathed it's the

3620
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:47,439
same air

3621
02:26:50,790 --> 02:26:50,319
right there's nothing new and created

3622
02:26:55,030 --> 02:26:50,800
and

3623
02:26:58,950 --> 02:26:55,040
so if you take yourself out of

3624
02:27:00,550 --> 02:26:58,960
this timeline and move those particles

3625
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:00,560
to somewhere else and are now

3626
02:27:06,469 --> 02:27:04,080
adding particles right and adding

3627
02:27:07,429 --> 02:27:06,479
things you're right i think though i

3628
02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:07,439
think

3629
02:27:11,510 --> 02:27:09,760
things would implode right you're now

3630
02:27:15,670 --> 02:27:11,520
upsetting the balance

3631
02:27:17,830 --> 02:27:15,680
of the universe and that would make

3632
02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:17,840
that type of physical time travel

3633
02:27:21,990 --> 02:27:20,000
probably impossible

3634
02:27:23,670 --> 02:27:22,000
yeah it would have so that's why like

3635
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:23,680
that's why i feel like the one thing

3636
02:27:28,830 --> 02:27:25,200
that makes sense

3637
02:27:29,990 --> 02:27:28,840
would be to be able to time travel via

3638
02:27:31,590 --> 02:27:30,000
consciousness

3639
02:27:34,870 --> 02:27:31,600
like you know they'll the old saying

3640
02:27:36,550 --> 02:27:34,880
like i wish i knew then what i know now

3641
02:27:38,710 --> 02:27:36,560
maybe you can make that possible in the

3642
02:27:40,630 --> 02:27:38,720
future you know what i mean

3643
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:40,640
because then you're not adding anything

3644
02:27:45,910 --> 02:27:42,720
to the atoms you're literally

3645
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:45,920
time traveling through your life right

3646
02:27:50,710 --> 02:27:49,200
what do you do what if you could go back

3647
02:27:52,309 --> 02:27:50,720
uh how old were you when you started

3648
02:27:54,230 --> 02:27:52,319
playing bass

3649
02:27:55,510 --> 02:27:54,240
um well i started playing guitar when i

3650
02:27:57,830 --> 02:27:55,520
was 10 years old

3651
02:27:59,990 --> 02:27:57,840
and i started i i messed around on bass

3652
02:28:01,670 --> 02:28:00,000
a little bit when i was 13 and 14

3653
02:28:03,670 --> 02:28:01,680
but i didn't actually really pick up

3654
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:03,680
like the bass as my predominant

3655
02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:05,120
instrument until i was

3656
02:28:12,309 --> 02:28:08,960
about 18. so what do you do

3657
02:28:13,429 --> 02:28:12,319
if you could go back to your 13 year old

3658
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:13,439
bass playing

3659
02:28:20,790 --> 02:28:17,200
self what secret do you give

3660
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:20,800
what what what musical secret do you

3661
02:28:29,110 --> 02:28:26,880
give to yourself get lessons

3662
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:29,120
i'm off to that if i could go back right

3663
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:32,560
and i went back to like the 1977 version

3664
02:28:37,429 --> 02:28:34,240
of me

3665
02:28:40,870 --> 02:28:37,439
do i take like

3666
02:28:43,830 --> 02:28:40,880
ozzy osbourne blizzard of oz right do i

3667
02:28:46,790 --> 02:28:43,840
give myself the randy do i take myself

3668
02:28:48,950 --> 02:28:46,800
in vayne malmsteen

3669
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:48,960
you know what i mean just i mean but if

3670
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:50,960
you can time travel via consciousness

3671
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:54,160
like all the stuff that i know now

3672
02:28:58,150 --> 02:28:57,200
i'm bringing back to my 13 year old self

3673
02:29:01,750 --> 02:28:58,160
so it's like

3674
02:29:03,990 --> 02:29:01,760
yo i could write all the records that i

3675
02:29:07,429 --> 02:29:04,000
know how to play

3676
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:07,439
and like have them come out before their

3677
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:09,040
time that's what i'm saying do you do

3678
02:29:12,309 --> 02:29:09,920
that what what

3679
02:29:14,469 --> 02:29:12,319
and what because i mean i i think like

3680
02:29:17,750 --> 02:29:14,479
if i were to come out with like

3681
02:29:19,670 --> 02:29:17,760
um what's a what's a really good like if

3682
02:29:23,270 --> 02:29:19,680
i were like invent a genre

3683
02:29:25,510 --> 02:29:23,280
at 13 like it might not hit the same

3684
02:29:26,950 --> 02:29:25,520
that it did when i it was a popular

3685
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:26,960
genre in my 20s

3686
02:29:31,190 --> 02:29:29,359
you know right it's the natural

3687
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:31,200
evolution of music

3688
02:29:37,670 --> 02:29:33,760
and like i could have wrote you know

3689
02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:37,680
like say i go back to um

3690
02:29:42,150 --> 02:29:41,040
you know 1990 you know like forget about

3691
02:29:44,309 --> 02:29:42,160
everything we talked about

3692
02:29:47,750 --> 02:29:44,319
and i wrote the original corn record in

3693
02:29:50,950 --> 02:29:47,760
1990 before it came out in 1996 or 1994

3694
02:29:52,630 --> 02:29:50,960
right it might not hit the same you know

3695
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:52,640
lincoln because people weren't yeah

3696
02:29:57,750 --> 02:29:54,560
people weren't ready for that yet

3697
02:30:00,309 --> 02:29:57,760
like once grunge died you know

3698
02:30:02,870 --> 02:30:00,319
that's kind of when everything started

3699
02:30:05,510 --> 02:30:02,880
to change

3700
02:30:07,030 --> 02:30:05,520
and so i think if i were to go back and

3701
02:30:09,750 --> 02:30:07,040
try to

3702
02:30:10,230 --> 02:30:09,760
completely steal somebody's music to try

3703
02:30:13,349 --> 02:30:10,240
to

3704
02:30:14,710 --> 02:30:13,359
financially benefit myself i i really

3705
02:30:18,150 --> 02:30:14,720
think it would have the

3706
02:30:20,389 --> 02:30:18,160
literal opposite effect

3707
02:30:22,710 --> 02:30:20,399
because there's there's a there's like a

3708
02:30:25,110 --> 02:30:22,720
bridge that you're not getting

3709
02:30:26,469 --> 02:30:25,120
there's like influences that they've had

3710
02:30:28,550 --> 02:30:26,479
that made the music

3711
02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:28,560
that they wrote and came out with such

3712
02:30:32,309 --> 02:30:30,560
influential music themselves

3713
02:30:33,910 --> 02:30:32,319
there's like there's a piece that's

3714
02:30:34,870 --> 02:30:33,920
missing and i don't think it would hit

3715
02:30:37,429 --> 02:30:34,880
the same

3716
02:30:38,950 --> 02:30:37,439
you don't think uh if you busted out

3717
02:30:42,790 --> 02:30:38,960
with uh

3718
02:30:44,950 --> 02:30:42,800
rage against the machine in 1990

3719
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:44,960
you know you know what i mean and uh

3720
02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:46,160
that that that

3721
02:30:50,070 --> 02:30:49,520
would have caught no because i think in

3722
02:30:51,349 --> 02:30:50,080
the time

3723
02:30:53,429 --> 02:30:51,359
because i mean bridges machine only

3724
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:53,439
played like one show i think before they

3725
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:55,600
were signed it was ridiculous

3726
02:30:59,670 --> 02:30:58,160
but there was a lot of there was a lot

3727
02:31:01,190 --> 02:30:59,680
of stuff going on around that time you

3728
02:31:03,030 --> 02:31:01,200
know there was like you know the rodney

3729
02:31:04,710 --> 02:31:03,040
king there was all this political stuff

3730
02:31:06,630 --> 02:31:04,720
going on there was a whole bunch

3731
02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:06,640
there was like a it was like a political

3732
02:31:09,590 --> 02:31:07,760
revolution

3733
02:31:11,190 --> 02:31:09,600
and then here comes this band and many

3734
02:31:12,790 --> 02:31:11,200
people may not realize

3735
02:31:14,469 --> 02:31:12,800
like that how how much they were

3736
02:31:16,870 --> 02:31:14,479
politically affiliated but there was an

3737
02:31:17,590 --> 02:31:16,880
attitude that came into writing those

3738
02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:17,600
songs

3739
02:31:21,590 --> 02:31:19,920
that were based off of their experiences

3740
02:31:22,469 --> 02:31:21,600
and the stuff that was happening in that

3741
02:31:23,670 --> 02:31:22,479
present time

3742
02:31:25,990 --> 02:31:23,680
that i don't think that you could

3743
02:31:29,590 --> 02:31:26,000
replicate even if you played those

3744
02:31:30,389 --> 02:31:29,600
those songs note for note sang them note

3745
02:31:31,750 --> 02:31:30,399
for note

3746
02:31:33,590 --> 02:31:31,760
i don't think it would come across the

3747
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:33,600
same you don't think so uh you're

3748
02:31:37,429 --> 02:31:34,960
probably right there

3749
02:31:39,110 --> 02:31:37,439
and and thank you for making me feel a

3750
02:31:40,870 --> 02:31:39,120
little bit dumber than i thought i was

3751
02:31:44,230 --> 02:31:40,880
being kind of smart

3752
02:31:47,750 --> 02:31:44,240
um and the reason why

3753
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:47,760
i say it like i do is there were a few

3754
02:31:51,830 --> 02:31:49,200
things i'm literally

3755
02:31:52,790 --> 02:31:51,840
uh 30 seconds past my commercial break

3756
02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:52,800
i'm letting uh

3757
02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:54,960
the network know i'll take my break in

3758
02:31:58,950 --> 02:31:57,200
30 seconds that there were a few things

3759
02:32:02,309 --> 02:31:58,960
that broke out that were timeless

3760
02:32:05,670 --> 02:32:02,319
um rage against the machine today

3761
02:32:06,550 --> 02:32:05,680
is fresh to me right i listened to it

3762
02:32:10,469 --> 02:32:06,560
today and it

3763
02:32:12,550 --> 02:32:10,479
sounds as fresh as it did in 1995

3764
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:12,560
when my mind was blown corrosion of

3765
02:32:15,590 --> 02:32:13,600
conformity

3766
02:32:17,110 --> 02:32:15,600
you know and and the things that were

3767
02:32:17,910 --> 02:32:17,120
happening back then i listened to them

3768
02:32:19,429 --> 02:32:17,920
today

3769
02:32:21,349 --> 02:32:19,439
and i feel like they they could have

3770
02:32:24,070 --> 02:32:21,359
been released today

3771
02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:24,080
um pantera it still has that same effect

3772
02:32:26,790 --> 02:32:24,960
on me

3773
02:32:28,230 --> 02:32:26,800
i mean pantera was around a long time

3774
02:32:28,469 --> 02:32:28,240
before cowboy as a hell came out you

3775
02:32:32,150 --> 02:32:28,479
know

3776
02:32:33,830 --> 02:32:32,160
right they had they had black magic

3777
02:32:35,190 --> 02:32:33,840
yes they were doing they they tried a

3778
02:32:36,790 --> 02:32:35,200
whole bunch of different styles before

3779
02:32:39,510 --> 02:32:36,800
they were just like you know what

3780
02:32:42,630 --> 02:32:39,520
let's just do what we like let's not try

3781
02:32:45,590 --> 02:32:42,640
to be like skid row or motley crew

3782
02:32:47,750 --> 02:32:45,600
let's do what feels good to us and we

3783
02:32:48,630 --> 02:32:47,760
got that timeless album cowboys from

3784
02:32:50,389 --> 02:32:48,640
hell

3785
02:32:52,389 --> 02:32:50,399
it's still still today one of the

3786
02:32:54,070 --> 02:32:52,399
greatest albums uh in the history of

3787
02:32:55,750 --> 02:32:54,080
everything let's take our quick break

3788
02:32:58,389 --> 02:32:55,760
we're going to do some overtime kyle

3789
02:33:00,389 --> 02:32:58,399
coghill is here bad wolves bassist

3790
02:33:02,070 --> 02:33:00,399
i am your host jimmy church stay right

3791
02:33:03,590 --> 02:33:02,080
there we're doing overtime next

3792
02:33:05,349 --> 02:33:03,600
after this short break on the game

3793
02:33:08,630 --> 02:33:05,359
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3794
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:08,640
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3795
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3799
02:33:22,020 --> 02:33:17,359
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3908
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3909
02:38:13,270 --> 02:38:01,140
this is kjcr jimmychurchradio.com

3910
02:38:16,790 --> 02:38:14,870
welcome back fade to block i'm your host

3911
02:38:19,830 --> 02:38:16,800
jimmy church heading into overtime

3912
02:38:22,389 --> 02:38:19,840
kyle conkill of bad wolves

3913
02:38:23,590 --> 02:38:22,399
the basis is with us tonight what a

3914
02:38:27,510 --> 02:38:23,600
great conversation

3915
02:38:29,830 --> 02:38:27,520
and i want to i want to uh

3916
02:38:31,270 --> 02:38:29,840
i want to go into a different zone and

3917
02:38:34,309 --> 02:38:31,280
and that's what's cool about

3918
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:34,319
overtime uh kyle is uh the pressure's

3919
02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:34,640
off

3920
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:39,040
want to ask you this question

3921
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:41,439
and and and just be straight with me

3922
02:38:46,309 --> 02:38:42,880
what is it

3923
02:38:48,950 --> 02:38:46,319
about musicians and the paranormal

3924
02:38:49,830 --> 02:38:48,960
and the supernatural well what's going

3925
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:49,840
on there

3926
02:38:53,990 --> 02:38:52,240
it's it's it's it's a marriage made in

3927
02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:54,000
heaven i think

3928
02:39:00,790 --> 02:38:57,439
well i really think to do what i do

3929
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:00,800
and a lot of my other friends do

3930
02:39:05,110 --> 02:39:03,359
as a profession you need to be a little

3931
02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:05,120
bit crazy

3932
02:39:10,550 --> 02:39:08,160
it's not an easy lifestyle and

3933
02:39:12,150 --> 02:39:10,560
i really think you have to be maybe just

3934
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:12,160
a little off-center

3935
02:39:15,510 --> 02:39:14,240
to be able to stay sane because there's

3936
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:15,520
a lot of guys that i've met who have

3937
02:39:17,910 --> 02:39:16,080
toured

3938
02:39:20,230 --> 02:39:17,920
done one or two tours they're like i'm

3939
02:39:22,230 --> 02:39:20,240
never never doing that again

3940
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:22,240
and i would kind of place those into

3941
02:39:28,150 --> 02:39:24,640
like the normal people realm

3942
02:39:29,030 --> 02:39:28,160
and then there is the unnormal people

3943
02:39:32,389 --> 02:39:29,040
realm and i mean

3944
02:39:35,670 --> 02:39:32,399
i've i've like i might not have had many

3945
02:39:39,990 --> 02:39:35,680
ufo sightings or bigfoot sightings but

3946
02:39:43,349 --> 02:39:40,000
i am definitely sensitive

3947
02:39:46,070 --> 02:39:43,359
when it comes to things supernatural

3948
02:39:47,590 --> 02:39:46,080
you know i had i referred to it you know

3949
02:39:49,030 --> 02:39:47,600
my ex actually used to refer to it as

3950
02:39:51,750 --> 02:39:49,040
the darkness

3951
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:51,760
and like it's something that's followed

3952
02:39:56,309 --> 02:39:53,760
me around since i was a child

3953
02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:56,319
i don't know if it's the same thing i

3954
02:39:59,030 --> 02:39:58,080
haven't experienced it at where i'm at

3955
02:40:01,830 --> 02:39:59,040
now

3956
02:40:02,950 --> 02:40:01,840
but there were points in my life where i

3957
02:40:06,070 --> 02:40:02,960
have seen

3958
02:40:08,950 --> 02:40:06,080
things that were unexplainable

3959
02:40:09,830 --> 02:40:08,960
in the supernatural realm and i think

3960
02:40:16,870 --> 02:40:09,840
maybe

3961
02:40:19,349 --> 02:40:16,880
missing in my brain

3962
02:40:21,750 --> 02:40:19,359
that because i'm a musician maybe i'm

3963
02:40:24,790 --> 02:40:21,760
more sensitive to certain things

3964
02:40:26,389 --> 02:40:24,800
um but i mean

3965
02:40:28,630 --> 02:40:26,399
yeah i think it's just because we're all

3966
02:40:31,110 --> 02:40:28,640
a little bit nuts you know we all have

3967
02:40:33,429 --> 02:40:31,120
do you talk to your bandmates and other

3968
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:33,439
musicians about this stuff

3969
02:40:37,750 --> 02:40:35,439
not unless it's brought up first because

3970
02:40:40,710 --> 02:40:37,760
i i know my crowd

3971
02:40:42,550 --> 02:40:40,720
like i typically won't i like in my my

3972
02:40:46,070 --> 02:40:42,560
public persona

3973
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:46,080
is that and my private life

3974
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:49,120
is completely different than the persona

3975
02:40:52,630 --> 02:40:51,040
that's out there online because that's

3976
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:52,640
how i want it to be

3977
02:40:59,990 --> 02:40:55,760
um i i wanted my

3978
02:41:02,070 --> 02:41:00,000
public image to be pretty neutral

3979
02:41:03,030 --> 02:41:02,080
i don't i don't like you know i don't

3980
02:41:05,110 --> 02:41:03,040
want to

3981
02:41:07,190 --> 02:41:05,120
not that i'm like afraid of losing

3982
02:41:10,630 --> 02:41:07,200
followers but i don't want to divide

3983
02:41:11,269 --> 02:41:10,640
any of of my fans so i tend to keep

3984
02:41:14,389 --> 02:41:11,279
stuff

3985
02:41:15,590 --> 02:41:14,399
you know like politics personal opinions

3986
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:15,600
on the supernatural

3987
02:41:19,590 --> 02:41:17,840
aliens stuff like that like if you know

3988
02:41:20,870 --> 02:41:19,600
me and you're into that we can talk

3989
02:41:23,349 --> 02:41:20,880
about that

3990
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:23,359
but it's not something i typically bring

3991
02:41:27,670 --> 02:41:24,880
up unless

3992
02:41:29,269 --> 02:41:27,680
you know it's been brought up well now

3993
02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:29,279
you're out of the closet

3994
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:32,560
right oh it's fine right right there

3995
02:41:35,750 --> 02:41:34,960
are going to be people now that are

3996
02:41:37,830 --> 02:41:35,760
going to come up to you

3997
02:41:39,110 --> 02:41:37,840
dude i heard jam fade to black i i saw

3998
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:39,120
this ufo

3999
02:41:43,349 --> 02:41:41,920
right and that's fine if that did they

4000
02:41:45,590 --> 02:41:43,359
want to talk about it

4001
02:41:47,910 --> 02:41:45,600
but i but when when it comes to certain

4002
02:41:50,309 --> 02:41:47,920
things i try to come

4003
02:41:51,670 --> 02:41:50,319
i try to come at it with like all right

4004
02:41:53,910 --> 02:41:51,680
cool where did you see it

4005
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:53,920
let me see do you have the footage do

4006
02:41:59,110 --> 02:41:54,720
you

4007
02:42:01,110 --> 02:41:59,120
high megapixel

4008
02:42:03,510 --> 02:42:01,120
cameras in our pockets these days right

4009
02:42:05,269 --> 02:42:03,520
right which is weird because i i'm not

4010
02:42:06,870 --> 02:42:05,279
i don't know if it's me but i feel like

4011
02:42:08,309 --> 02:42:06,880
maybe there's

4012
02:42:10,550 --> 02:42:08,319
minus the stuff that's come out this

4013
02:42:12,710 --> 02:42:10,560
year i feel like there's been less

4014
02:42:16,550 --> 02:42:12,720
ufo sighting since the invention of the

4015
02:42:20,950 --> 02:42:18,870
it could be me or maybe it was just more

4016
02:42:22,469 --> 02:42:20,960
of a big deal

4017
02:42:24,070 --> 02:42:22,479
maybe i'm not plugged into the right

4018
02:42:28,550 --> 02:42:24,080
channels right

4019
02:42:31,750 --> 02:42:28,560
but i feel like seeing a ufo

4020
02:42:32,950 --> 02:42:31,760
or catching something on tape that is

4021
02:42:36,550 --> 02:42:32,960
supernatural

4022
02:42:38,790 --> 02:42:36,560
or paranormal i feel like

4023
02:42:40,710 --> 02:42:38,800
minus the reality shows i don't i don't

4024
02:42:43,190 --> 02:42:40,720
really buy into the reality shows like

4025
02:42:46,230 --> 02:42:43,200
the ghost hunters and stuff like that

4026
02:42:49,429 --> 02:42:46,240
um but i feel like there's a lot

4027
02:42:52,710 --> 02:42:49,439
less actual

4028
02:42:53,269 --> 02:42:52,720
footage being shot than you know i feel

4029
02:42:55,830 --> 02:42:53,279
like there's

4030
02:42:57,670 --> 02:42:55,840
there's more fabricated stuff because

4031
02:42:59,670 --> 02:42:57,680
you want the views you want that

4032
02:43:02,070 --> 02:42:59,680
you want that youtube monetization you

4033
02:43:03,429 --> 02:43:02,080
want to go viral you want those sponsors

4034
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:03,439
that comes with stuff like that

4035
02:43:07,269 --> 02:43:05,520
right so i think maybe it's just my

4036
02:43:10,309 --> 02:43:07,279
brain like oh that's not real

4037
02:43:12,389 --> 02:43:10,319
and maybe i'm i'm taking things with i'm

4038
02:43:13,910 --> 02:43:12,399
taking more things at face value than i

4039
02:43:15,269 --> 02:43:13,920
would have before the invention of the

4040
02:43:17,910 --> 02:43:15,279
smartphone

4041
02:43:18,870 --> 02:43:17,920
but to me there just hasn't really been

4042
02:43:22,950 --> 02:43:18,880
that many

4043
02:43:26,389 --> 02:43:22,960
notable uh like

4044
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:26,399
found footage things since the invention

4045
02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:26,720
of

4046
02:43:33,910 --> 02:43:30,880
maybe they're getting smarter

4047
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:33,920
you know i'm with you on that and uh

4048
02:43:38,070 --> 02:43:36,640
i uh you know ghost adventures and and

4049
02:43:39,590 --> 02:43:38,080
ghost hunters and

4050
02:43:41,590 --> 02:43:39,600
all of these paranormal they're they're

4051
02:43:44,230 --> 02:43:41,600
all over the place now and

4052
02:43:45,190 --> 02:43:44,240
and i enjoy watching them i always

4053
02:43:47,670 --> 02:43:45,200
considered it

4054
02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:47,680
entertainment right okay all right i

4055
02:43:51,190 --> 02:43:49,200
know that there's something going on

4056
02:43:52,150 --> 02:43:51,200
i've seen a couple of things and like

4057
02:43:55,269 --> 02:43:52,160
you said

4058
02:43:56,550 --> 02:43:55,279
uh you you had the dark zone uh when you

4059
02:43:59,990 --> 02:43:56,560
were growing up

4060
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:00,000
but uh over halloween i

4061
02:44:04,630 --> 02:44:03,200
i did this uh tv show uh for the dark

4062
02:44:07,750 --> 02:44:04,640
zone actually

4063
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:07,760
uh down in the queen mary in long beach

4064
02:44:11,030 --> 02:44:10,560
and so i'm there with all these you know

4065
02:44:14,230 --> 02:44:11,040
uh

4066
02:44:15,269 --> 02:44:14,240
you know fabulous professional ghost

4067
02:44:17,190 --> 02:44:15,279
hunters

4068
02:44:18,710 --> 02:44:17,200
with all the equipment and we've got the

4069
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:18,720
the cameras and the

4070
02:44:23,429 --> 02:44:20,720
crew and and everything we're going

4071
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:23,439
through and i got to tell you kyle

4072
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:27,600
i uh i was in this room

4073
02:44:31,269 --> 02:44:29,520
uh and we're doing this investigation

4074
02:44:33,429 --> 02:44:31,279
just like everything that you've seen on

4075
02:44:36,550 --> 02:44:33,439
tv you know this is what's going on

4076
02:44:39,190 --> 02:44:36,560
and there's this moment of silence

4077
02:44:41,190 --> 02:44:39,200
and there's uh we had of i think three

4078
02:44:43,030 --> 02:44:41,200
or four camera people off to my right

4079
02:44:43,429 --> 02:44:43,040
and a sound guy with a boom and and

4080
02:44:46,070 --> 02:44:43,439
they're

4081
02:44:47,110 --> 02:44:46,080
over here and we're in this suite

4082
02:44:49,349 --> 02:44:47,120
there's about

4083
02:44:51,030 --> 02:44:49,359
eight or nine people to my left that are

4084
02:44:52,070 --> 02:44:51,040
all part of this investigation well

4085
02:44:53,830 --> 02:44:52,080
anyway

4086
02:44:55,590 --> 02:44:53,840
so we're asking questions and we're

4087
02:44:58,469 --> 02:44:55,600
recording for evps

4088
02:45:00,870 --> 02:44:58,479
i get everything that you see on tv and

4089
02:45:03,269 --> 02:45:00,880
there's this moment of silence

4090
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:03,279
and kyle as i live and breathe on

4091
02:45:07,910 --> 02:45:04,640
everything that i love

4092
02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:07,920
and is holy this is what happened

4093
02:45:14,309 --> 02:45:11,040
dead silence and out of

4094
02:45:15,030 --> 02:45:14,319
the air from above me like over in this

4095
02:45:19,190 --> 02:45:15,040
direction

4096
02:45:23,030 --> 02:45:19,200
was a female voice loud and it went

4097
02:45:31,429 --> 02:45:26,870
i'm like what the hell was that

4098
02:45:34,870 --> 02:45:31,439
and and we all heard it

4099
02:45:38,469 --> 02:45:34,880
i i don't know right

4100
02:45:40,630 --> 02:45:38,479
that is i'm in a position of where i

4101
02:45:42,710 --> 02:45:40,640
i'm watching these tv shows and i'm

4102
02:45:43,349 --> 02:45:42,720
questioning everything man just like you

4103
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:43,359
are

4104
02:45:47,990 --> 02:45:46,319
and then it happens to you yeah well i

4105
02:45:48,790 --> 02:45:48,000
mean like i said it's happened to me

4106
02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:48,800
before

4107
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:50,640
and i don't doubt that they are real and

4108
02:45:54,550 --> 02:45:51,840
especially if you

4109
02:45:55,110 --> 02:45:54,560
i but i also really feel like if you can

4110
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:55,120
if you

4111
02:46:00,630 --> 02:45:58,399
give something power

4112
02:46:01,750 --> 02:46:00,640
the universe can react towards no doubt

4113
02:46:04,630 --> 02:46:01,760
you know what i mean what

4114
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:04,640
what happened uh give me an example i

4115
02:46:07,910 --> 02:46:06,479
will give you the last example and this

4116
02:46:10,950 --> 02:46:07,920
is the last time

4117
02:46:13,590 --> 02:46:10,960
i've ever saw this

4118
02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:13,600
what happened um so i was coming home

4119
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:15,680
i'm in my early 20s i'm still living

4120
02:46:20,150 --> 02:46:18,319
at home with my mom and my stepdad and

4121
02:46:22,389 --> 02:46:20,160
um

4122
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:22,399
uh you know i used to bring female

4123
02:46:26,950 --> 02:46:24,080
friends over you know from the bar

4124
02:46:28,389 --> 02:46:26,960
when i'd get home and uh i'd sneak them

4125
02:46:29,349 --> 02:46:28,399
in the back door and they'd be out

4126
02:46:33,349 --> 02:46:29,359
before the sun

4127
02:46:35,190 --> 02:46:33,359
didn't know and uh i remember and

4128
02:46:36,790 --> 02:46:35,200
sometimes my dad would be falling asleep

4129
02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:36,800
watching twilight zone on the couch and

4130
02:46:39,830 --> 02:46:38,080
sometimes i'd wake him up he'd never

4131
02:46:43,830 --> 02:46:39,840
say anything you know my dad my dad

4132
02:46:47,269 --> 02:46:45,750
but uh so i remember one night i'm

4133
02:46:50,389 --> 02:46:47,279
getting home

4134
02:46:52,469 --> 02:46:50,399
um i go straight into my room you know

4135
02:46:56,150 --> 02:46:52,479
put all my things away

4136
02:46:58,389 --> 02:46:56,160
and uh i remember i'm going towards the

4137
02:47:02,469 --> 02:46:58,399
the living room

4138
02:47:03,349 --> 02:47:02,479
and um or no i went into the bathroom

4139
02:47:06,150 --> 02:47:03,359
first that's what it was

4140
02:47:06,710 --> 02:47:06,160
sorry so i go to the bathroom i go into

4141
02:47:09,830 --> 02:47:06,720
my room

4142
02:47:11,190 --> 02:47:09,840
i come out and i go talk to my dad he's

4143
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:11,200
awake on the couch and he goes hey do

4144
02:47:15,110 --> 02:47:12,080
you have a friend with you

4145
02:47:16,710 --> 02:47:15,120
and i'm like no he was like

4146
02:47:18,389 --> 02:47:16,720
he's like i know i know you bring chicks

4147
02:47:19,910 --> 02:47:18,399
home dude he's like

4148
02:47:21,990 --> 02:47:19,920
do you gotta check over right now i was

4149
02:47:24,550 --> 02:47:22,000
like nope

4150
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:24,560
he's like all right because when you

4151
02:47:27,510 --> 02:47:25,359
went

4152
02:47:28,710 --> 02:47:27,520
back into your room when you left the

4153
02:47:30,469 --> 02:47:28,720
bathroom

4154
02:47:32,550 --> 02:47:30,479
i saw a brown haired girl follow you

4155
02:47:35,510 --> 02:47:32,560
into your room

4156
02:47:36,550 --> 02:47:35,520
so i was like no there's nobody here you

4157
02:47:37,910 --> 02:47:36,560
can come look

4158
02:47:40,870 --> 02:47:37,920
like you know i wouldn't lie to you

4159
02:47:43,190 --> 02:47:40,880
about this and

4160
02:47:44,870 --> 02:47:43,200
there was two rooms next there's two

4161
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:44,880
bedrooms down my hallway

4162
02:47:49,269 --> 02:47:47,600
there's the back door my room and then

4163
02:47:51,429 --> 02:47:49,279
we called the middle room

4164
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:51,439
i hated the middle room i always hated

4165
02:47:55,590 --> 02:47:52,720
the middle room

4166
02:47:56,309 --> 02:47:55,600
and i remember i would always close that

4167
02:47:58,070 --> 02:47:56,319
door

4168
02:47:59,349 --> 02:47:58,080
if it was open i would just always close

4169
02:48:03,030 --> 02:47:59,359
it and it would always

4170
02:48:04,469 --> 02:48:03,040
open up and i remember um it was kind of

4171
02:48:07,110 --> 02:48:04,479
open a little bit when i went to go talk

4172
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:07,120
to my dad and when i came back to my

4173
02:48:12,070 --> 02:48:07,840
room

4174
02:48:15,510 --> 02:48:12,080
i just i felt it and i looked over

4175
02:48:16,469 --> 02:48:15,520
and the the windows the window shades

4176
02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:16,479
were open

4177
02:48:19,910 --> 02:48:17,920
and you know there was moonlight and

4178
02:48:21,110 --> 02:48:19,920
stuff like that and i just see a

4179
02:48:26,389 --> 02:48:21,120
silhouette

4180
02:48:27,590 --> 02:48:26,399
over and i just grab the door and i

4181
02:48:30,710 --> 02:48:27,600
close it

4182
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:30,720
i go back into my room and that was the

4183
02:48:34,710 --> 02:48:32,080
last time i

4184
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:34,720
i saw it i felt it since then but that

4185
02:48:40,070 --> 02:48:35,920
was the last time

4186
02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:40,080
it let me see it was it

4187
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:42,960
what your dad described it was a

4188
02:48:46,790 --> 02:48:45,359
feminine figure with long hair

4189
02:48:48,870 --> 02:48:46,800
and because it was dark i could only

4190
02:48:52,150 --> 02:48:48,880
make out the silhouette it basically

4191
02:48:53,590 --> 02:48:52,160
just imagine you're looking at a like

4192
02:48:55,830 --> 02:48:53,600
it's not a bright moon

4193
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:55,840
but you're looking into a room that has

4194
02:48:59,910 --> 02:48:57,680
light veering into the window

4195
02:49:01,910 --> 02:48:59,920
right and you can't really see the

4196
02:49:05,349 --> 02:49:01,920
corners of the room you can't make out

4197
02:49:05,750 --> 02:49:05,359
anything really in the room but i made

4198
02:49:09,110 --> 02:49:05,760
out

4199
02:49:11,670 --> 02:49:09,120
a very specific

4200
02:49:12,630 --> 02:49:11,680
silhouette of a female figure in that

4201
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:12,640
room

4202
02:49:18,790 --> 02:49:15,920
now you you you close the door

4203
02:49:20,469 --> 02:49:18,800
yeah and you walk away yeah was it

4204
02:49:23,590 --> 02:49:20,479
because you were like well

4205
02:49:25,030 --> 02:49:23,600
okay there you go right right i mean

4206
02:49:26,550 --> 02:49:25,040
literally when he

4207
02:49:28,550 --> 02:49:26,560
did you close the door because you were

4208
02:49:30,389 --> 02:49:28,560
scared and then you were freaked out and

4209
02:49:33,910 --> 02:49:30,399
did you think about it all night

4210
02:49:36,070 --> 02:49:33,920
or was it just a ghost uh

4211
02:49:38,469 --> 02:49:36,080
well so when my dad had asked me he's

4212
02:49:41,590 --> 02:49:38,479
like well i saw a girl go into your room

4213
02:49:42,870 --> 02:49:41,600
when you went into the bathroom that's

4214
02:49:46,150 --> 02:49:42,880
pretty crazy actually

4215
02:49:48,230 --> 02:49:46,160
but see where he sits he has i

4216
02:49:49,429 --> 02:49:48,240
he has a straight line from where he was

4217
02:49:51,750 --> 02:49:49,439
sitting on the couch

4218
02:49:53,990 --> 02:49:51,760
to my room now you wouldn't be able to

4219
02:49:55,590 --> 02:49:54,000
tell if somebody went into my room or

4220
02:49:57,190 --> 02:49:55,600
the middle room because the doors are

4221
02:50:00,790 --> 02:49:57,200
literally this far apart

4222
02:50:03,030 --> 02:50:00,800
sure um

4223
02:50:04,710 --> 02:50:03,040
so when he told me that like the the

4224
02:50:05,110 --> 02:50:04,720
hairs on the hairs on the back of my

4225
02:50:07,269 --> 02:50:05,120
neck

4226
02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:07,279
and i was just like ugh i really wish

4227
02:50:12,790 --> 02:50:10,000
you didn't tell me that

4228
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:12,800
and when i looked in the room because i

4229
02:50:18,950 --> 02:50:14,560
would always try not to look in the room

4230
02:50:20,469 --> 02:50:18,960
it was a weird room i didn't like it um

4231
02:50:21,990 --> 02:50:20,479
when it was dark i would never i would

4232
02:50:24,630 --> 02:50:22,000
never look in the room i would just

4233
02:50:25,110 --> 02:50:24,640
grab the door handle close the door and

4234
02:50:27,910 --> 02:50:25,120
when i

4235
02:50:28,309 --> 02:50:27,920
looked in the room like you just when

4236
02:50:32,630 --> 02:50:28,319
you

4237
02:50:36,150 --> 02:50:32,640
someone's

4238
02:50:38,389 --> 02:50:36,160
looking at me and it made me

4239
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:38,399
look so when then when i saw it i was

4240
02:50:42,150 --> 02:50:40,160
just like all right

4241
02:50:43,670 --> 02:50:42,160
close the door went in my room and i

4242
02:50:44,710 --> 02:50:43,680
slept with the lights on the rest of the

4243
02:50:48,070 --> 02:50:44,720
night right right

4244
02:50:50,150 --> 02:50:48,080
right what that's actually why i started

4245
02:50:53,590 --> 02:50:50,160
sleeping with the tv on

4246
02:50:56,469 --> 02:50:53,600
because i felt like because

4247
02:50:57,349 --> 02:50:56,479
like how i feel about that is that the

4248
02:50:59,510 --> 02:50:57,359
dead

4249
02:51:01,670 --> 02:50:59,520
because we're all made of energy like

4250
02:51:03,030 --> 02:51:01,680
your energy just doesn't disappear

4251
02:51:04,790 --> 02:51:03,040
you know just because you put something

4252
02:51:06,469 --> 02:51:04,800
in the ground or burn it up

4253
02:51:08,230 --> 02:51:06,479
doesn't mean the actual energy inside

4254
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:08,240
your body goes away

4255
02:51:12,790 --> 02:51:11,200
and i think that there's people or and

4256
02:51:15,830 --> 02:51:12,800
places

4257
02:51:17,590 --> 02:51:15,840
that have there's like a

4258
02:51:19,750 --> 02:51:17,600
there's like two realms there's like you

4259
02:51:21,110 --> 02:51:19,760
know there's the land of the dead and

4260
02:51:24,150 --> 02:51:21,120
there's the land of the living

4261
02:51:25,510 --> 02:51:24,160
and i think people and places can kind

4262
02:51:28,070 --> 02:51:25,520
of make those crash

4263
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:28,080
a little bit into each other to where

4264
02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:29,680
they can see us

4265
02:51:34,070 --> 02:51:32,319
maybe we can see them but we're not

4266
02:51:37,110 --> 02:51:34,080
completely joined we're just like

4267
02:51:39,910 --> 02:51:37,120
right at the tip just touching do you

4268
02:51:43,590 --> 02:51:39,920
think she lived in that room

4269
02:51:47,030 --> 02:51:43,600
i don't know um the house is really old

4270
02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:47,040
my mom still lives there right um

4271
02:51:51,269 --> 02:51:50,080
my mom has had the house saged multiple

4272
02:51:54,870 --> 02:51:51,279
times

4273
02:51:58,710 --> 02:51:54,880
um but that house

4274
02:52:01,670 --> 02:51:58,720
is 120 years old in burbank

4275
02:52:03,110 --> 02:52:01,680
uh yeah just outside of it's well it's

4276
02:52:03,670 --> 02:52:03,120
technically just out i don't like to let

4277
02:52:05,590 --> 02:52:03,680
people know

4278
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:05,600
where my mom lives right but it's just

4279
02:52:09,990 --> 02:52:06,960
outside of burbank

4280
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:10,000
in the northeast valley gotcha um

4281
02:52:16,070 --> 02:52:13,520
gotcha and

4282
02:52:17,590 --> 02:52:16,080
the town that we grew up in was you know

4283
02:52:19,910 --> 02:52:17,600
had been around for a long time you know

4284
02:52:22,150 --> 02:52:19,920
this house was made in 1900

4285
02:52:25,030 --> 02:52:22,160
right you know what i mean right right

4286
02:52:28,710 --> 02:52:27,750
but the add-on to the house wasn't made

4287
02:52:31,510 --> 02:52:28,720
until the

4288
02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:31,520
60s or 70s which is where my room is

4289
02:52:35,910 --> 02:52:33,920
which is where the two back rooms were

4290
02:52:38,550 --> 02:52:35,920
so it was i don't know if it was

4291
02:52:41,910 --> 02:52:38,560
something that had to do with that house

4292
02:52:42,790 --> 02:52:41,920
specifically or if it because or if it

4293
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:42,800
was because

4294
02:52:50,070 --> 02:52:47,200
i'm sensitive to certain things um

4295
02:52:50,790 --> 02:52:50,080
now you know okay okay you you brought

4296
02:52:53,429 --> 02:52:50,800
up

4297
02:52:54,630 --> 02:52:53,439
uh kyle showed me his cell phone he's

4298
02:52:57,429 --> 02:52:54,640
got a

4299
02:52:58,870 --> 02:52:57,439
uh iphone 11 or 12 right it's got the

4300
02:53:01,990 --> 02:52:58,880
three cameras on it right

4301
02:53:05,190 --> 02:53:02,000
he showed this to me and

4302
02:53:06,870 --> 02:53:05,200
here you have that experience and you

4303
02:53:07,910 --> 02:53:06,880
were just talking about everybody's got

4304
02:53:10,710 --> 02:53:07,920
a cell phone

4305
02:53:11,269 --> 02:53:10,720
but where's the footage yeah you didn't

4306
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:11,279
take

4307
02:53:15,910 --> 02:53:13,120
any pictures i had a flip i had a flip

4308
02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:15,920
phone oh no camera

4309
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:18,080
but do you know what i mean in the in

4310
02:53:21,510 --> 02:53:19,200
the moment

4311
02:53:22,950 --> 02:53:21,520
and sometimes you don't yeah it happens

4312
02:53:25,990 --> 02:53:22,960
so fast

4313
02:53:27,670 --> 02:53:26,000
was this something that that if you

4314
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:27,680
had the equipment do you think you could

4315
02:53:32,389 --> 02:53:29,680
have photographed it

4316
02:53:34,230 --> 02:53:32,399
if i had a c because the one thing that

4317
02:53:34,790 --> 02:53:34,240
i feel like is the hardest to get to in

4318
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:34,800
a hurry

4319
02:53:37,990 --> 02:53:37,520
is your camera on your cell phone right

4320
02:53:39,510 --> 02:53:38,000
especially

4321
02:53:41,750 --> 02:53:39,520
if you're trying to film a video you're

4322
02:53:43,990 --> 02:53:41,760
gonna hit everything else

4323
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:44,000
before you get to the proper way to do

4324
02:53:47,590 --> 02:53:45,120
it if

4325
02:53:48,150 --> 02:53:47,600
whatever it was you know it also could

4326
02:53:50,630 --> 02:53:48,160
have been

4327
02:53:52,150 --> 02:53:50,640
easily my imagination my dad had put

4328
02:53:54,550 --> 02:53:52,160
like oh there's a girl

4329
02:53:55,990 --> 02:53:54,560
so i could have easily out of shadows

4330
02:53:58,550 --> 02:53:56,000
made a figure of a girl

4331
02:53:59,670 --> 02:53:58,560
in my head to scare myself which is

4332
02:54:02,070 --> 02:53:59,680
totally plausible

4333
02:54:05,030 --> 02:54:02,080
but if whatever i was looking at gave me

4334
02:54:07,110 --> 02:54:05,040
the right amount of time i would try

4335
02:54:08,309 --> 02:54:07,120
i mean i'd be scared i'd probably pee my

4336
02:54:11,349 --> 02:54:08,319
pants scared

4337
02:54:14,710 --> 02:54:11,359
mm-hmm but i would definitely attempt

4338
02:54:16,389 --> 02:54:14,720
to to capture it but who knows you know

4339
02:54:18,630 --> 02:54:16,399
maybe there's because i know that there

4340
02:54:21,670 --> 02:54:18,640
are certain things that the human eye

4341
02:54:23,349 --> 02:54:21,680
can only see in person like any time you

4342
02:54:23,670 --> 02:54:23,359
see a picture of like someone oh look

4343
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:23,680
how

4344
02:54:28,550 --> 02:54:25,120
beautiful the moon is and they took it

4345
02:54:31,830 --> 02:54:28,560
on their iphone it looks like garbage

4346
02:54:34,630 --> 02:54:31,840
so there's things that only our eyeballs

4347
02:54:36,309 --> 02:54:34,640
can process like you can't process

4348
02:54:38,150 --> 02:54:36,319
through a camera it doesn't matter how

4349
02:54:41,510 --> 02:54:38,160
good the camera is i agree

4350
02:54:44,309 --> 02:54:41,520
the in-person view of something will

4351
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:44,319
always be better than a photographed

4352
02:54:48,150 --> 02:54:45,439
image of it

4353
02:54:49,830 --> 02:54:48,160
which is why people who can make

4354
02:54:53,030 --> 02:54:49,840
photographs

4355
02:54:56,389 --> 02:54:53,040
look so amazing are amazing

4356
02:54:59,510 --> 02:54:56,399
you know amazing people um

4357
02:55:01,349 --> 02:54:59,520
but i don't think that i would have been

4358
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:01,359
able to capture what i saw if

4359
02:55:07,429 --> 02:55:05,200
if it was what i thought it was

4360
02:55:08,950 --> 02:55:07,439
if it wasn't a figment of my imagination

4361
02:55:10,790 --> 02:55:08,960
a shape i made out of the shadows

4362
02:55:13,830 --> 02:55:10,800
because there was no noise

4363
02:55:16,389 --> 02:55:13,840
and my heart was racing i was a you know

4364
02:55:17,030 --> 02:55:16,399
adrenaline pumping there there could be

4365
02:55:19,110 --> 02:55:17,040
multiple

4366
02:55:20,389 --> 02:55:19,120
things that i'm miss remembering about

4367
02:55:23,269 --> 02:55:20,399
that situation

4368
02:55:24,790 --> 02:55:23,279
i didn't hear any breathing there was no

4369
02:55:27,990 --> 02:55:24,800
groans there was no

4370
02:55:30,710 --> 02:55:28,000
nothing it was dead silent

4371
02:55:31,910 --> 02:55:30,720
i'll tell you a funny story it happened

4372
02:55:35,750 --> 02:55:31,920
uh

4373
02:55:38,870 --> 02:55:35,760
last thursday

4374
02:55:42,710 --> 02:55:38,880
uh right over by your house

4375
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:42,720
on uh uh what was the

4376
02:55:50,309 --> 02:55:46,399
the corner sherman way

4377
02:55:53,670 --> 02:55:50,319
and uh vineland

4378
02:55:56,550 --> 02:55:53,680
oh yeah like right there okay and

4379
02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:56,560
uh no we turned left on vineland and we

4380
02:56:00,630 --> 02:55:57,520
were heading

4381
02:56:03,429 --> 02:56:00,640
up towards san fernando road okay okay

4382
02:56:04,790 --> 02:56:03,439
right by the five freeway and you

4383
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:04,800
probably saw this

4384
02:56:11,510 --> 02:56:08,000
uh a fire hydrant got hit

4385
02:56:13,670 --> 02:56:11,520
by a car and the geyser was shooting up

4386
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:13,680
on the corner of san fernando road

4387
02:56:17,510 --> 02:56:15,120
there's like a chevron

4388
02:56:19,269 --> 02:56:17,520
there next to the mcdonald's i know you

4389
02:56:21,349 --> 02:56:19,279
know exactly what i'm talking about

4390
02:56:23,110 --> 02:56:21,359
yeah um and so this thing is shooting

4391
02:56:27,030 --> 02:56:23,120
100 feet in the air

4392
02:56:28,150 --> 02:56:27,040
and i am fumbling with my cell phone to

4393
02:56:29,830 --> 02:56:28,160
shoot a video

4394
02:56:32,230 --> 02:56:29,840
it's right in front of me this isn't a

4395
02:56:35,030 --> 02:56:32,240
fleeting moment of a ufo or a ghost

4396
02:56:36,790 --> 02:56:35,040
you're also you're also you're also at a

4397
02:56:38,389 --> 02:56:36,800
red light

4398
02:56:39,990 --> 02:56:38,399
right you're driving you're at a red

4399
02:56:42,309 --> 02:56:40,000
light i i

4400
02:56:43,110 --> 02:56:42,319
can't get video to happen on my phone

4401
02:56:45,750 --> 02:56:43,120
right yeah

4402
02:56:47,030 --> 02:56:45,760
and i've got all the time in the world

4403
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:47,040
in the middle of daytime

4404
02:56:50,710 --> 02:56:48,640
but the one thing you're not trying to

4405
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:50,720
be is that guy sitting at the green

4406
02:56:53,190 --> 02:56:51,439
light like

4407
02:56:55,429 --> 02:56:53,200
filming something that's going on you

4408
02:56:57,110 --> 02:56:55,439
know and i did everything i could and i

4409
02:57:00,389 --> 02:56:57,120
still almost blew it

4410
02:57:00,870 --> 02:57:00,399
like three times and and and i had five

4411
02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:00,880
minutes

4412
02:57:04,309 --> 02:57:02,800
uh to do it kyle what a great

4413
02:57:07,190 --> 02:57:04,319
conversation tonight man

4414
02:57:08,150 --> 02:57:07,200
and uh when's i know you're working on

4415
02:57:11,510 --> 02:57:08,160
the new album

4416
02:57:12,550 --> 02:57:11,520
when can we expect it um i'm not exactly

4417
02:57:14,309 --> 02:57:12,560
sure yet

4418
02:57:16,309 --> 02:57:14,319
uh they they were talking about maybe

4419
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:16,319
first quarter next year but

4420
02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:18,399
we might coincide you know if we're

4421
02:57:21,590 --> 02:57:20,160
still able to do these disturbed

4422
02:57:23,429 --> 02:57:21,600
stain dates in the summer we might

4423
02:57:25,110 --> 02:57:23,439
coincide with that um

4424
02:57:27,990 --> 02:57:25,120
i'm not really sure but sometime next

4425
02:57:30,309 --> 02:57:28,000
year how many tracks are done

4426
02:57:31,830 --> 02:57:30,319
um well i mean we have a lot of tracks

4427
02:57:33,349 --> 02:57:31,840
done but we haven't even picked

4428
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:33,359
what's going to be on the record yet so

4429
02:57:36,309 --> 02:57:34,640
we're going to be going through probably

4430
02:57:39,510 --> 02:57:36,319
20 songs

4431
02:57:40,389 --> 02:57:39,520
really quick um i'm i'm uh i'm i'm a

4432
02:57:45,349 --> 02:57:40,399
musician

4433
02:57:47,190 --> 02:57:45,359
are you guys uh doing this in a studio

4434
02:57:48,630 --> 02:57:47,200
well we we're actually kind of doing it

4435
02:57:51,510 --> 02:57:48,640
for the most part the way that we've

4436
02:57:53,510 --> 02:57:51,520
always done it is

4437
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:53,520
over the computer just sending ideas

4438
02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:54,720
right you know right

4439
02:57:58,550 --> 02:57:57,359
john works with a guy his name is max

4440
02:58:01,429 --> 02:57:58,560
who helps

4441
02:58:03,110 --> 02:58:01,439
bring john's ideas to life and then

4442
02:58:06,070 --> 02:58:03,120
those get sent to a producer

4443
02:58:08,550 --> 02:58:06,080
and then tommy will listen to those fix

4444
02:58:10,550 --> 02:58:08,560
some arrangements or what have you

4445
02:58:12,389 --> 02:58:10,560
and i mean we kind of just all have

4446
02:58:13,349 --> 02:58:12,399
worked remotely regardless anyway we're

4447
02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:13,359
not like

4448
02:58:16,710 --> 02:58:15,359
we haven't been a band that's just like

4449
02:58:18,630 --> 02:58:16,720
gotten to a rehearsal place all right

4450
02:58:20,469 --> 02:58:18,640
let's write songs and then we've never

4451
02:58:21,190 --> 02:58:20,479
gone into a studio okay let's write this

4452
02:58:23,510 --> 02:58:21,200
record

4453
02:58:24,630 --> 02:58:23,520
it's like you know john did all the

4454
02:58:26,469 --> 02:58:24,640
drums

4455
02:58:28,389 --> 02:58:26,479
for the last two records in nashville

4456
02:58:30,870 --> 02:58:28,399
with mark lewis

4457
02:58:33,349 --> 02:58:30,880
with two completed tracks you know

4458
02:58:35,910 --> 02:58:33,359
mm-hmm we don't really have

4459
02:58:36,550 --> 02:58:35,920
like that's kind of our way of of making

4460
02:58:38,870 --> 02:58:36,560
records

4461
02:58:40,630 --> 02:58:38,880
which is a lot different than how most

4462
02:58:42,630 --> 02:58:40,640
people make records

4463
02:58:44,309 --> 02:58:42,640
um it's more on par with like how

4464
02:58:46,389 --> 02:58:44,319
meshuggah does stuff or

4465
02:58:47,510 --> 02:58:46,399
um but it's like and we don't really

4466
02:58:50,150 --> 02:58:47,520
have a set order

4467
02:58:50,790 --> 02:58:50,160
like if if the song is good then we go

4468
02:58:52,469 --> 02:58:50,800
with it

4469
02:58:54,150 --> 02:58:52,479
and then if like all right cool we need

4470
02:58:54,630 --> 02:58:54,160
to we might need to redo the guitars for

4471
02:58:56,710 --> 02:58:54,640
this

4472
02:58:58,389 --> 02:58:56,720
or reamp them through something else and

4473
02:58:59,349 --> 02:58:58,399
then you know i'll come and play bass on

4474
02:59:02,469 --> 02:58:59,359
everything when it's all

4475
02:59:04,070 --> 02:59:02,479
done like i'll do my vocals my

4476
02:59:05,750 --> 02:59:04,080
background vocals for the record before

4477
02:59:08,790 --> 02:59:05,760
i even play bass on it

4478
02:59:11,030 --> 02:59:08,800
interesting yeah and see that's that's

4479
02:59:12,710 --> 02:59:11,040
the beauty of technology today

4480
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:12,720
where you can do that where you can

4481
02:59:16,550 --> 02:59:14,080
digitally distribute

4482
02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:16,560
tracks at any level of the production

4483
02:59:19,910 --> 02:59:17,600
process

4484
02:59:22,230 --> 02:59:19,920
right and do your contribution and then

4485
02:59:23,990 --> 02:59:22,240
come back and it goes to somebody else

4486
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:24,000
and and they do their thing and

4487
02:59:29,269 --> 02:59:26,720
eventually it winds its way back to you

4488
02:59:30,469 --> 02:59:29,279
and and you do your thing again and can

4489
02:59:32,710 --> 02:59:30,479
you imagine

4490
02:59:35,030 --> 02:59:32,720
if we had the ability to do that in the

4491
02:59:38,469 --> 02:59:35,040
80s with two inch tape

4492
02:59:40,230 --> 02:59:38,479
right instead of forcing everybody to

4493
02:59:43,030 --> 02:59:40,240
get in the same mindset

4494
02:59:45,750 --> 02:59:43,040
at the same time in the same studio to

4495
02:59:47,429 --> 02:59:45,760
get the magic to happen which is cool

4496
02:59:50,469 --> 02:59:47,439
right yeah but it's another thing where

4497
02:59:53,349 --> 02:59:50,479
you can get everybody in their own zone

4498
02:59:55,030 --> 02:59:53,359
and contribute at the right time yeah

4499
02:59:57,590 --> 02:59:55,040
fantastic conversation

4500
02:59:58,389 --> 02:59:57,600
and uh i look forward uh to uh inviting

4501
03:00:02,950 --> 02:59:58,399
myself on

4502
03:00:04,710 --> 03:00:02,960
on unjust sdfu uh anytime man i

4503
03:00:06,469 --> 03:00:04,720
i would really enjoy it thank you so

4504
03:00:07,190 --> 03:00:06,479
much yeah thanks for having me man it's

4505
03:00:10,070 --> 03:00:07,200
been a blast

4506
03:00:10,469 --> 03:00:10,080
kyle conkel and we just went polled the

4507
03:00:13,349 --> 03:00:10,479
poll

4508
03:00:15,190 --> 03:00:13,359
i'm looking at the clock and the

4509
03:00:17,830 --> 03:00:15,200
network's about to cut us off

4510
03:00:18,389 --> 03:00:17,840
so i'm going to put kyle on hold while

4511
03:00:21,670 --> 03:00:18,399
i'll

4512
03:00:23,429 --> 03:00:21,680
yeah why i read the credits i've got to

4513
03:00:24,309 --> 03:00:23,439
get out of here faded black's executive

4514
03:00:26,790 --> 03:00:24,319
producer

4515
03:00:27,349 --> 03:00:26,800
is rita kumarian shows produced by

4516
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:27,359
hilton j

4517
03:00:31,590 --> 03:00:30,080
palm renee dennis and kevin announcers

4518
03:00:34,550 --> 03:00:31,600
are steve harter gene vettel

4519
03:00:35,190 --> 03:00:34,560
mark d kovar webmaster is drew the geek

4520
03:00:38,349 --> 03:00:35,200
music

4521
03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:38,359
doug aldridge intro spaceboy

4522
03:00:41,910 --> 03:00:39,760
spaceboymusic.com

4523
03:00:43,870 --> 03:00:41,920
faded black is produced by kjcr for the

4524
03:00:45,510 --> 03:00:43,880
game changer network and syndication is

4525
03:00:47,429 --> 03:00:45,520
kgra

4526
03:00:49,670 --> 03:00:47,439
the planet this broadcast owner

4527
03:00:50,950 --> 03:00:49,680
copyrighted 2020 by fade to black and

4528
03:00:53,510 --> 03:00:50,960
the game changer network

4529
03:00:55,110 --> 03:00:53,520
inc it cannot be re-broadcast downloaded

4530
03:00:55,830 --> 03:00:55,120
copied or used anywhere in the known

4531
03:00:57,429 --> 03:00:55,840
universe

4532
03:00:58,950 --> 03:00:57,439
without written permission from paid to

4533
03:01:00,710 --> 03:00:58,960
black or the game changer network

4534
03:01:02,469 --> 03:01:00,720
i'm here with jimmy church tomorrow

4535
03:01:05,590 --> 03:01:02,479
night is fader night

4536
03:01:08,469 --> 03:01:05,600
open lines all night long until then

4537
03:01:23,310 --> 03:01:08,479
i want everybody to be safe this is fade